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Old 10-31-2004 | 02:18 PM
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Exclamation 2005 PCA Club Racing rule changes posted

Click here to view changes. Can anyone recommend a good replacement for remote reservoir shocks? (just kidding )
Old 10-31-2004 | 02:50 PM
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Does this mean that the DAS bar is still legal?

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Old 10-31-2004 | 03:55 PM
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Does this mean the no-backdating rule died?

Does this mean that sanity prevailed?

Does this (oh, never mind... )

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Old 10-31-2004 | 04:20 PM
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In GTC3, wheels must be as delivered from the factory or aftermarket 3 piece OEM wheels of the same width, diameter, and offsets.
And this means that only wheels made by BBS are legal?
Old 10-31-2004 | 09:36 PM
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Wow, what happened to all that stuff about 94 octane gas for stock classes, reservoir shocks, light flywheels for the RSA in D, decreasing weight on the 95 993, ect. Hmmm just foolin I guess. I did see that the 997 and 997s will be in C class. I wonder if the 997S will give the 993 RS and 993 TT a run for C class dominance ?
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Originally Posted by carreracup21
Wow, what happened to all that stuff about 94 octane gas for stock classes, reservoir shocks, light flywheels for the RSA in D, decreasing weight on the 95 993, ect. Hmmm just foolin I guess. I did see that the 997 and 997s will be in C class. I wonder if the 997S will give the 993 RS and 993 TT a run for C class dominance ?
I guess it just died. Would have like to seen some weight relief for the prepared 993 seeing how they are putting a 997 with the same or less weight but 50-70 hp more in the same class.
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Greg:

I would think that a well-prepared 993RS would handle a bit better than a porky 997S, despite the latter's hyrdo-electric-elastic-thermonuclear shocks and all. It would be great if PCA recognized that a stripped RS Clubsport ought to weigh less than an optioned RS Touring, but let's count our blessings.

Joe Fa... (oops, I cannot utter his name, his is banned forever from the Renn Kingdom) has just acquired a 997S and is pimping his ride. Maybe we can get him to track it alongside his white 993 RS clone?

Anyway, I want to applaud the rules committee for being so reasonable and attentive to everyone's concerns-- this is supposed to be about FUN and cameraderie, not about hair-splitting. The people spoke, and it looks like the committee listened, and they deserve credit for that.

Lee in D.C. (too slow to win under any rule whatsoever... )

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Yeah, I think they could really equalize all the cars in any class with some weight changes, but they seem intent on keeping them at published weight as if it was etched in stone somewhere.
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Would someone really spend way more than it would cost to buy a good cup car to cut up a brand-new 997 and turn it into a competitve club-racer?
I could see this being an issue 2-3 years down the road...
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I think plentiful 996 Cup cars will soon be a thing of the past as they have quit making them and the 997 Cups will be out of reach at near 200k. You are right though 2-3 years we will see more of the street 997's making it out there. There are actually a few street GT-3's running in B class and I can't really see the point of that either, but it happens.
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Originally Posted by DCLee
Greg:

I would think that a well-prepared 993RS would handle a bit better than a porky 997S, despite the latter's hyrdo-electric-elastic-thermonuclear shocks and all. It would be great if PCA recognized that a stripped RS Clubsport ought to weigh less than an optioned RS Touring, but let's count our blessings.

Joe Fa... (oops, I cannot utter his name, his is banned forever from the Renn Kingdom) has just acquired a 997S and is pimping his ride. Maybe we can get him to track it alongside his white 993 RS clone?

Anyway, i want to applaud the rules committee for being so reasonable and attentive to everyone's concerns-- this is supposed to be about FUN and cameraderie, not about hair-splitting. The people spoke, and it looks like the committee listened, and they deserve credit for that.

Lee in D.C. (too slow to win under any rule whatsoever... )
Lee,
Not talking about the 993RS, I would agree with you there. Talking about guys like me who are not allowed to run as a RS (basically any converted car, including your old one) due the the strict interpretation of the up date, back date rules.

My 993 would have to run at 3100lbs or so and with a 280hp stock 3.6 I am in a serious uphill battle against pretty much every other car in that class.
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Originally Posted by Jack667
Would someone really spend way more than it would cost to buy a good cup car to cut up a brand-new 997 and turn it into a competitve club-racer?
I could see this being an issue 2-3 years down the road...
Happens quite frequently. I have seen new 996TT's, 996's, etc. racing in PCA. Now that they have to have a full cage it might be different (that rule did pass, correct?)
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Man, I guess I can't lease a 911 anymore, throw in a DAS bar and club race my daily driver and still get the dealer to do warranty oil changes? Then turn it in when I can afford a cup car?!

In all seriousness, the rule changes look fine. I'm glad they didn't start equalizing stock classes with running gear modifications and we'll never see full weight parity. PCA still is an ameteur arena where the best money is invested in driving time.
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Originally Posted by MJR911
Man, I guess I can't lease a 911 anymore, throw in a DAS bar and club race my daily driver and still get the dealer to do warranty oil changes? Then turn it in when I can afford a cup car?!
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That would be a riot if you could pull that off !! I wonder if it's been done before ?
Old 10-31-2004 | 11:24 PM
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A very clean mounted kill switch, Recaro bucket on stock rails, a second set of wheels (maybe), DAS bar, and window net (might be toughest part)....and the willingness to remove all the above when going back for warranty... why not!


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