So what happened at Putnam? 10/2-10/3 Weekend Update
10-06-2004, 02:48 PM
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Damn Norm, you would have beaten my 600 hp beast with a 944 turbo! Yuch! Do I suck!
I can see drifting on a big arc through 2, and then drifting through three, but I still think you will get spit out of 3 into the inside of 4 at the bottom of the hill. I couldn't recover from there without dropping major speed to get around 4 so I paused a little (as Greg wisely suggested) after turn 2 track out and then gunned it, aiming for drifting to the middle of 4 where you could brake going up the hill to get it turned in and then drift it around the turn, near the curbs, until track out.
I would really appreciate it if you could do a more detailed track report after this weekend. You and I have similar cars and you can drive like the wind (sub 1:10)
I can see drifting on a big arc through 2, and then drifting through three, but I still think you will get spit out of 3 into the inside of 4 at the bottom of the hill. I couldn't recover from there without dropping major speed to get around 4 so I paused a little (as Greg wisely suggested) after turn 2 track out and then gunned it, aiming for drifting to the middle of 4 where you could brake going up the hill to get it turned in and then drift it around the turn, near the curbs, until track out.
I would really appreciate it if you could do a more detailed track report after this weekend. You and I have similar cars and you can drive like the wind (sub 1:10)
10-06-2004, 03:05 PM
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CC,
Don't be so hard on yourself. I have driven Putnam since the day it opened. I have thousands of miles on it :-)
So while it may sound like 'I am a driver that is all that and a bag of chips' as the saying goes, I have a lot of seat time on the track and am comfortable with cars being driven smoothly but hard and fast a bit over the edge :-)
After this weekend, I will clarify what I may have desribed poorly. Heck, if I may even digitize some in car video if I bring the camera.
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Don't be so hard on yourself. I have driven Putnam since the day it opened. I have thousands of miles on it :-)
So while it may sound like 'I am a driver that is all that and a bag of chips' as the saying goes, I have a lot of seat time on the track and am comfortable with cars being driven smoothly but hard and fast a bit over the edge :-)
After this weekend, I will clarify what I may have desribed poorly. Heck, if I may even digitize some in car video if I bring the camera.
Norm
10-06-2004, 03:14 PM
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When you say "spit out of 3 into the inside of 4 at the bottom of the hill" - I am not sure what you mean.
In 3 on my way to 4 I touch the curbing on the right then guide the car mid track (at this point I am still not yet near the apex of 4), I stay on throttle, tap the brakes with my left foot then guide the car onto the left apex curbing and stay on the curbing for several feet - I actually hit the curbing a little before apex and drive over tgher apex part of the curb. The curbing acts like positive camber and I can carry more speed which pushes me that much faster to the exit. The car then naturally drifts all the way to the exit of 4 curbing on the right. I then guide it left to the entrance of 5.
Does that help at all? If not I'll wait until after this weekend...
Norm
When you say "spit out of 3 into the inside of 4 at the bottom of the hill" - I am not sure what you mean.
In 3 on my way to 4 I touch the curbing on the right then guide the car mid track (at this point I am still not yet near the apex of 4), I stay on throttle, tap the brakes with my left foot then guide the car onto the left apex curbing and stay on the curbing for several feet - I actually hit the curbing a little before apex and drive over tgher apex part of the curb. The curbing acts like positive camber and I can carry more speed which pushes me that much faster to the exit. The car then naturally drifts all the way to the exit of 4 curbing on the right. I then guide it left to the entrance of 5.
Does that help at all? If not I'll wait until after this weekend...
Norm
10-06-2004, 03:23 PM
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Norm, I'll host the video for you and even edit it if you give it to me. Heck, I'll even send a digital camcorder and mount if you need one. That's how much I want your 1:10 lap video in a car like mine! 
It sounds like I am taking too early of an apex on 3. When I hit three, the car drifts pretty hard from the apex all thee way to the left side of the track before the entry to 4. I can't stop it at the middle of the track without slowing. I am also not clipping the curbs at 3 as big as you describe.
Do you hug the curbing on 4 for 20 feet or 40 feet?
It sounds like I am taking too early of an apex on 3. When I hit three, the car drifts pretty hard from the apex all thee way to the left side of the track before the entry to 4. I can't stop it at the middle of the track without slowing. I am also not clipping the curbs at 3 as big as you describe.
Do you hug the curbing on 4 for 20 feet or 40 feet?
10-06-2004, 03:31 PM
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I am guessing I ride the curbing on the left at 4 for maybe 10 feet not much more.
BTW - I do already have in car v ideo of the 1:09. But hopefully I will get faster this weekend as I dial it even better. It ws my first hotlap. I had an outlap to scrub the tires, then 1 hot lap (the 1:09) and then one cool down....
Running shifter karts twice a week (4-6 hrs of seat time every week) for 4 years really improved my ability to qualify on cold tires. Even in the 944 my fastest lap times were lap 2 or 3...
Norm
I am guessing I ride the curbing on the left at 4 for maybe 10 feet not much more.
BTW - I do already have in car v ideo of the 1:09. But hopefully I will get faster this weekend as I dial it even better. It ws my first hotlap. I had an outlap to scrub the tires, then 1 hot lap (the 1:09) and then one cool down....
Running shifter karts twice a week (4-6 hrs of seat time every week) for 4 years really improved my ability to qualify on cold tires. Even in the 944 my fastest lap times were lap 2 or 3...
Norm
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10-06-2004, 05:02 PM
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Now you're not going to be surprised when you see me skip turns 9 & 10 and take the inner kart loop at the exit of 8 and hit the straight are you :-)
Did I forget to tell you I was running the short course ?
Just kidding...
Norm
Did I forget to tell you I was running the short course ?
Just kidding...
Norm
10-06-2004, 05:11 PM
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Nice Avatar GilhartMotorsports (Rick) 
Yeah, dont worry, we'll have a blast together once you new ride is ready. You'll be running reallly fast too...
BTW - I dont think I have ever posted this much, I have other things I need to do now. Im starting to feel like an
Adios
Norm
Yeah, dont worry, we'll have a blast together once you new ride is ready. You'll be running reallly fast too...
BTW - I dont think I have ever posted this much, I have other things I need to do now. Im starting to feel like an
Adios
Norm
