First DE coming up
#16
I am glad we have the front of the car covered so there will be minimal stone chip damage, but must of you, except for Matt, have glossed over the fact that this cab is going out on the track WITHOOUT roll over protection for the driver and Instructor. There are National Standards for DE events which all regions must adhere. The Standard for Open Cars...that is cars without a permanet roof, need a roll bar if the factory did not supply roll over protection..the 996 cab and Boxster fall into the latter category.
Pete
Pete
#17
From my region's (NER) car requirements section:
Roll bar for cabriolets — except Boxster and 996 cabs which may run as shipped by the factory. While not required, we recommend roll-bar extensions for all Boxsters, especially for those with drivers who "sit tall."
Drivers of Boxsters and 996 cabs must run with their tops up or their hard tops installed unless they meet the requirements in the next bullet.
Drivers of all open cars and cabs with the top off or down must meet the broomstick rule and have five-point harnesses & arm restraints (in spite of the name, the driver has all the mobility needed to safely drive her/his car).
Roll bar for cabriolets — except Boxster and 996 cabs which may run as shipped by the factory. While not required, we recommend roll-bar extensions for all Boxsters, especially for those with drivers who "sit tall."
Drivers of Boxsters and 996 cabs must run with their tops up or their hard tops installed unless they meet the requirements in the next bullet.
Drivers of all open cars and cabs with the top off or down must meet the broomstick rule and have five-point harnesses & arm restraints (in spite of the name, the driver has all the mobility needed to safely drive her/his car).
#19
I started DE's w/a 993 Cab...that's why I have 3 Porsche's now. Once your times improves, Chicago will not let you drive above the novice group. They also frown on "experienced" drivers from driving in Novice. I didn't want to mess up my cab w/a rollbar so I bought the '74.
As for instructors, there will be some good ones there. I know that Bill (Bill in Chi) is going and he knows the track very well. Look him up or request him and you'll be fine.
If you haven't had the work done on your car yet, you might consider Midwest Eurosport. They support many of the Chi. de'ers and racers. They will probably be a Blackhawk to offer support. I would pick up a set of brake pads to be on the safe side. Worst case, you can have Eurosport put them in for you.
You'll have a blast, I suggest you start looking for your second p-car about now!
As for instructors, there will be some good ones there. I know that Bill (Bill in Chi) is going and he knows the track very well. Look him up or request him and you'll be fine.
If you haven't had the work done on your car yet, you might consider Midwest Eurosport. They support many of the Chi. de'ers and racers. They will probably be a Blackhawk to offer support. I would pick up a set of brake pads to be on the safe side. Worst case, you can have Eurosport put them in for you.
You'll have a blast, I suggest you start looking for your second p-car about now!
#21
Originally Posted by mitch236
As for the Boxters being unsafe, well maybe so but none of the clubs I run with preclude them.
That being said, I still made sure that I passed the broomstick test with tons of room to spare. In the interests of equal protection, my passenger enjoys similar safety.
#22
I find it hard to believe that most of the chatter here is about protecting the car from stone chips . . . protect yourself and your instructor!
I am amazed that even if the sponsorsing group allows cabs to run without rollover protection, that the track would allow it.
Get yourself a rollbar - I have seen many that are both attractive and do not hinder the use of the rear seats for kids.
I am amazed that even if the sponsorsing group allows cabs to run without rollover protection, that the track would allow it.
Get yourself a rollbar - I have seen many that are both attractive and do not hinder the use of the rear seats for kids.
#23
I get most of my stone chips on the road, not on the track. I think the ratio is about 95% road, 5% track. Only stone chips come from someone going off in your session and dragging stuff onto the track.
Now big black rubber marks all over the paint... sure, but they wash right off with a little elbow grease.
Now big black rubber marks all over the paint... sure, but they wash right off with a little elbow grease.
#25
no roll bar is definately a no-go. There are bolt-in, no modifications necesary, bars available that although not suitable for racing would work well for your DE application. Getting the second dedicated track car is however the best option:-)
Pete (Tremper) and TNT (always anonymous) have it right pay attention.
Pete, see you at the Point next weekend ?
Pete (Tremper) and TNT (always anonymous) have it right pay attention.
Pete, see you at the Point next weekend ?
#26
Originally Posted by Wreck Me Otter
I've used both the blue painters tape and racers tape (duct tape really).
#27
I wouldn't want to clean all of that adhesive of the front of my car....I know it doesn't always happen but when there is a tape residue you can look at several hours of cleaning and waxing. If chips are a concern, invest in a car bra.
I have also heard that duct tape can lift the paint if it really gets hot and sets on the car.
I have also heard that duct tape can lift the paint if it really gets hot and sets on the car.