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Old Jul 12, 2025 | 04:03 PM
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HSR requires these now. Does anyone know if PCA, SVRA, NASA also puts out these signals . maybe I have been out of touch for too long. Seems like a very useful instrument. thanks frank
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Old Jul 12, 2025 | 07:33 PM
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I just got an email that Monticello Motor Club will require them in 2026.

AER and Champ Car requires Flagtronics for a bunch of years now.
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HSR requires these now. Does anyone know if PCA, SVRA, NASA also puts out these signals . maybe I have been out of touch for too long. Seems like a very useful instrument. thanks frank
They do not.
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HSR requires these now. Does anyone know if PCA, SVRA, NASA also puts out these signals . maybe I have been out of touch for too long. Seems like a very useful instrument. thanks frank
They do not. AER and Champ Car do.
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I believe SVRA does (or did)
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Old Jul 13, 2025 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by LuigiVampa
I just got an email that Monticello Motor Club will require them in 2026.

AER and Champ Car requires Flagtronics for a bunch of years now.
The MMC one is requiring MYLAPS Racelink. Is that the same?
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Old Jul 13, 2025 | 08:54 AM
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The MMC one is requiring MYLAPS Racelink. Is that the same?
No, they are different devices that do similar things.
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I believe SVRA does (or did)
I raced with SVRA this year and they did not require a flagtronics.
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We have been using it for the past 2 years in WRL. They have now added Driver ID to it as well in WRL and we wear an RFID puck so the can see who is in the car (although they have not transmitted this to live feed race broadcast coverage yet).
If you position the module well on the dash it is nice to have. In WRL at least it does not do local incident flags, only full course (as in it won't show one corner with a waving yellow).
In some restarts after FCC/FCY the Flagtronics will beat my spotter on the radio to green. Sometimes it lags behind though, so you have to go with whichever is first.
It has a pit speed indicator that will flash at you over the pit speed limit (our cars aren't fancy enough to have pit limiters), as well as a pit timer, which are both very nice to have.
Overall it's a good tool to have available, especially in endurance racing.

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I really wish PCA would do this. They are amazing in AER. Local yellows. Virtual pace cars (code 35).

all us racecar drivers would complain, but I think that the real cost is the logistics with each race being run by a different org. National would have to help run everything.

Last night I had a dream that I passed under yellow.. has this really displaced the forgot to-wear-pants dreams … or just added to them?🤷‍♂️
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At least you didn't forget to finish rebuilding your engine, like I did in my anxiety dream
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The race is about to start, why did I leave my unloaded trailer so far away?
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Originally Posted by Geneman
HSR requires these now. Does anyone know if PCA, SVRA, NASA also puts out these signals . maybe I have been out of touch for too long. Seems like a very useful instrument. thanks frank
SCCA has been using Flagtronics for certain major races, and the results are rather mixed. First there is the controversy over what takes presidence, the local flag, or the the Flagtronics dash display (they don't always agree 100% of the time). The SCCA has proclaimed that the "cloth" rules in case there is a discrepancy.

Flagtronics works by zones, so I have argued that we need to use FIA flagging by zones to correspond with Flagtronics, but so far the SCCA flagging rules do not correspond with zones. There have also been a few people complaining that vibration can set off the crash indication in Flagtronics, which requires the driver to press a button to confirm they are OK.

You can read more about actual experiences both good and bad at https://apexspeed.com/

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I have dreamt/nightmarish, that PCA asked me as a medical consult on Luigi
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Is this both electronic signage and in-car? Does this reduce the number of corner workers?
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