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Old 06-17-2024, 07:37 PM
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About a million times better than all other options:

Zero Noise "INTREPID" Intercom - 2 Place - 2 Volume Controls (stableenergies.com)
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I'm gonna be the simple solution to complex problems guy... And there is a simple solution to this:
You don't need a two way communicator.. Just get an open face helmet.

I've tried instructing with communicators and when they go bad, they go bad HArD. Nothing worse than static feedback when something slips out of it's connection point.

The students don't need to speak to the instructor, they just need to listen and follow instructions. What makes communication hard is the instructor in helmet trying to speak to the student.

Now before we get the safety crew screaming about how a closed faced helmet is safer than an open faced helmet... I mean, we are at a HPDE in enclosed sports cars. The drive to the track is probably more dangerous than anything that's happening on the track and you don't wear your helmet on the highway where the real danger is.

Give it a try. It's actually way more comfortable being in an open face.
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At a recent track event we were advised not to carry an iPhone in the car on track. Apparently the new operating system can detect excessive g-forces and will contact emergency services under the AI presumption that there has been an accident.
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Originally Posted by Mark Dreyer
At a recent track event we were advised not to carry an iPhone in the car on track. Apparently the new operating system can detect excessive g-forces and will contact emergency services under the AI presumption that there has been an accident.
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https://support.apple.com/en-us/104959

Android
https://support.google.com/pixelphon...-sos-on-or-off

You can disable the features, or leave the phone in the paddock. Fortunately, I haven't seen a false positive cause unneeded emergency services, but I've heard of it happening.
Old 07-08-2024, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by B-Line
I'm gonna be the simple solution to complex problems guy... And there is a simple solution to this:
You don't need a two way communicator.. Just get an open face helmet.
I want to keep my face the way it is (despite complaints from others), so I have a full face helmet.

I’ve heard some tracks/clubs require full face helmets?
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Old 07-09-2024, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by B-Line
I'm gonna be the simple solution to complex problems guy... And there is a simple solution to this:
You don't need a two way communicator.. Just get an open face helmet.

I've tried instructing with communicators and when they go bad, they go bad HArD. Nothing worse than static feedback when something slips out of it's connection point.

The students don't need to speak to the instructor, they just need to listen and follow instructions. What makes communication hard is the instructor in helmet trying to speak to the student.

Now before we get the safety crew screaming about how a closed faced helmet is safer than an open faced helmet... I mean, we are at a HPDE in enclosed sports cars. The drive to the track is probably more dangerous than anything that's happening on the track and you don't wear your helmet on the highway where the real danger is.

Give it a try. It's actually way more comfortable being in an open face.
Yes, one of my track buddies also uses an open face helmet.
My ego is too fragile to be seen in one of those....LOL


Originally Posted by Mark Dreyer
At a recent track event we were advised not to carry an iPhone in the car on track. Apparently the new operating system can detect excessive g-forces and will contact emergency services under the AI presumption that there has been an accident.
Yeah, our region tells folks to turn it off at the drivers meeting. I think we also tell them they are responsible for paying the fire truck or whatever when they show up, it seems to get everyone's attention.
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Open face helmets are not legal in many states.
For good reason: Think air bags. Think crap flying into the car. Think crap in the car flying in your face.

I have used plenty of communicators that work well.

I also wear molded ear plugs to protect what is left of my hearing.
And I have instructed in many cars that are way too loud even for shouting.

Originally Posted by B-Line
I'm gonna be the simple solution to complex problems guy... And there is a simple solution to this:
You don't need a two way communicator.. Just get an open face helmet.
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Old 07-31-2024, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by dgrobs
Yup, Trac Com for the win.

Have used mine with 100 students at least, and it still works as good as it did when new. Just keep a 6 pack of 9Vs' in the glove box and good for the season and then some....

Stay away from Chatterbox. Not sure why they are still being sold. Probably the price, but I see no other reason to buy that piece of crapola, and even that's not a good reason.
What are your thoughts on students buying their own communication systems? Your Trac Com worked extremely well the entire weekend during our sessions, very crisp, with more range if needed. The next full weekend with a new instructor, who used a different system, made things near impossible to hear instruction, even in the paddock. This possibly limited my in-car instruction during each session due to this issue (new batteries didn’t help) bc I feel it was little frustrating for the both of us, so we both just lived with it. I dont mind paying up to get a decent system while Im still getting instruction to ensure crisp communication, especially while Im getting free instruction.

I’d obviously go your route, and provide fresh mouth pierce communicator guards to any passenger.
Do you see any downsides to this plan?
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I put a trac com in my car after my 2nd track day. This way i dont have to rely on others.
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Old 08-01-2024, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by BoxKing
What are your thoughts on students buying their own communication systems? Your Trac Com worked extremely well the entire weekend during our sessions, very crisp, with more range if needed. The next full weekend with a new instructor, who used a different system, made things near impossible to hear instruction, even in the paddock. This possibly limited my in-car instruction during each session due to this issue (new batteries didn’t help) bc I feel it was little frustrating for the both of us, so we both just lived with it. I dont mind paying up to get a decent system while Im still getting instruction to ensure crisp communication, especially while Im getting free instruction.

I’d obviously go your route, and provide fresh mouth pierce communicator guards to any passenger.
Do you see any downsides to this plan?

no issues at all imho. i have had students with their own system and it worked just fine. a couple times it was better than mine and a couple times it was worse. relatively cheap investment though and one day when you become an instructor you have one less thing to buy!
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