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Old 01-25-2024, 10:54 AM
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Default Trailex CT-8045 and Boxster S

Planning on moving up to a tow vehicle and trailer for my 2013 Boxster S. Looking at ordering the trailex CT-8045 weighs 910 lbs with a wheel/tire rack. Also plan on buying a used Macan S (V6) with a 4409 lb towing capacity, Unless I have to don't want to get a bigger tow vehicle to drive around between track days, I really like my MB GLC300 but only 3500 tow capacity.

Anybody with experience with either the trailer or a Macan S?
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Too small IMO. Get a Cayenne.
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I live in your town! Please alert me to anytime you'll be on the pike or leaving Wegmans in that rig so I can steer clear. That's fully in the zone where the answers to "will it work" and "should you do it" diverge 180 degrees.
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^Agree, you will be close to the limit. Also need to consider tongue weight and other gear/ passengers. I think it's been done but I'd want a higher capacity vehicle. I've towed 987, 981, 718 on a CT 8045. Good quality trailer. Be aware that it has a fairly high deck height for the car doors to clear the trailer fenders, so the ramps length is 11 ft. you may also need race ramps or similar to avoid scraping the front splitter. makes for a long rig when loading/ unloading.
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No

I towed the same trailer with an Acura MDX for a few years. 981S Cayman

While it worked, there was very little margin for error, and I knew if I ever had to really “Panic Brake”, it was gonna be 50/50

F-150 with max tow package solved any doubt and have been towing with it ever since.

Macan, whether Base, S, or Turbo, is just to small in wheel base and axle ratio alone.

You wanna be at 75% of max tow capacity or LOWER. Above 75%, you’re getting into a grayish area.

Safety first always.
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I have a friend who has towed his Boxster and an open trailer with no issues, HOWEVER you need to realize that you have no margin on tongue weight and close to zero safety margin and that you will likely be running your Macan transmission into the ground.
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get a v8 Touareg
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Originally Posted by markmark26
get a v8 Touareg
or TDI if you can find one. That vehicle towed my heavy open trailer and 3k pound race car like a champ.
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Originally Posted by Mark Dreyer
or TDI if you can find one. That vehicle towed my heavy open trailer and 3k pound race car like a champ.
Last year found a 2012 that had recently replaced new engine from VW for 10K. On FB market place of all places. 996 and aluma open gets 18mpg. If only diesel was cheaper.
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Originally Posted by dgrobs
No

I towed the same trailer with an Acura MDX for a few years. 981S Cayman

While it worked, there was very little margin for error, and I knew if I ever had to really “Panic Brake”, it was gonna be 50/50

F-150 with max tow package solved any doubt and have been towing with it ever since.

Macan, whether Base, S, or Turbo, is just to small in wheel base and axle ratio alone.

You wanna be at 75% of max tow capacity or LOWER. Above 75%, you’re getting into a grayish area.

Safety first always.
I think that it's ignorant or assumptive to think the OEM and their lawyers didn't factor in any safety margin when establishing tow limits.

Personally, it's overly cautious to stop at 75% of a tow limit. Especially if the trailer has brakes. The limit was created with safety in mind, use it.
I get it if the vehicle is loaded up. You need to pay attention to GVWR and tongue weight.

What's the point of a limit if you are suppose stay so far from it? Many people definitely max out and/or exceed 80% for trucks and SUVs.

The USA is one of the easiest countries to sue in, and vehicles from Europe quite often have lower tow ratings in the USA. Europe also has different acceptable tongue weight, around 7% versus 10-15% here. The trailers are designed differently to shift weight back and lower tongue weight.

Why would Porsche rate it at 2000 kg for the USA? It appears to be rated for 2400 kg in Europe. So back to my lawsuit point.
The 2016 Macan was originally rated over 5k and lowered down at production. It still meets the SAE J2807 criteria.

People literally tow campers in Europe with cars of similar weight. So stay off of European roads because you might die!

The Jeep Wrangler Unlimited is rated 3500 lbs. in the USA, it's 5000 lbs. in Europe and Australia.

There are many pictures on Google of Macan's towing boats, small enclosed trailers, or open car haulers.

*BTW, a Macan has a slightly longer wheelbase than a 2003-2024 Toyota 4Runner. I see these pulling trailers into track weekends all the time. So wheelbase is a non-issue to tow 4400 lbs., especially with a mid-engine vehicle where much of the weight is on top of the axles.

*I have a friend who has been using a late 90s 4Runner with a 105" wheelbase to tow just over 4k lbs. for over a decade with zero issues. Use common sense and accidents aren't likely. Probably more likely to have something happen on track. Probably around 1/4 or so of DE weekends that I've been to have someone hit a tire barrier or wall. I've heard of maybe a handful or 2 of incidents involving towing a car, most start with a tire blowing out. I'd be more concerned in a TPMS setup for the trailer tires than towing at the OEM rated limit.

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I tow my loaded enclosed trailer near but under the limit of my 1/2 ton Ram eco diesel 9000 pound rating. Thankfully I only have a 10 mile drive to take the race car to the shop because that trailer moves my Ram around in a disconcerting fashion. The power and braking is fine but at highway speeds it’s a fairly dicey feeling. No way would I want to drive it any significant distance. Does that make sense in terms of countering your inference that it’s BS to stay well under max tow rating as Dgrobs suggested?
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Originally Posted by dave99rt
I think that it's ignorant or assumptive to think the OEM and their lawyers didn't factor in any safety margin when establishing tow limits.

It's overly cautious to stop at 75% of a tow limit. Especially if the trailer has brakes. I get it if the vehicle is loaded up. You need to pay attention to GVWR.

What's the point of a limit if you are suppose stay so far from it? Many people definitely max out and/or exceed 80% for trucks and SUVs.

The USA is one of the easiest countries to sue in, and vehicles from Europe commonly have lower tow ratings here.

Why would Porsche rate it at 2000 kg for the USA? It appears to be rated for 2400 kg in Europe. So back to my lawsuit point.

People literally tow campers in Europe with cars that have similar weight. So stay off of European roads because you might die!

There are many pictures on Google of Macan's towing boats, small enclosed trailers, or open car haulers.

*BTW, a Macan has a slightly longer wheelbase than a 2003-2024 Toyota 4Runner. I see these pulling trailers into track weekends all the time. So wheelbase is a non-issue to tow 4400 lbs., especially with a mid-engine vehicle where much of the weight is on top of the axles.
Yeah, we’re gonna have to agree to disagree here. Im always gonna err on the side of safety.
Again, yes people do it, and again, should people do it?
We can just agree to disagree, respectfully. Good input though. What makes this place great.
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Originally Posted by Mark Dreyer
I tow my loaded enclosed trailer near but under the limit of my 1/2 ton Ram eco diesel 9000 pound rating. Thankfully I only have a 10 mile drive to take the race car to the shop because that trailer moves my Ram around in a disconcerting fashion. The power and braking is fine but at highway speeds it’s a fairly dicey feeling. No way would I want to drive it any significant distance. Does that make sense in terms of countering your inference that it’s BS to stay well under max tow rating as Dgrobs suggested?
Sounds like a setup issue or user error. I encounter 20-30 foot enclosed trailers/campers and rarely do they appear dicey. Some of these people drive all over the country.

At big HDPE and race weekends, there are 1/2 ton trucks (and smaller vehicles) everywhere that pull in with trailers.

By your logic, one would need a 3/4 truck to pull 8k lbs?


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Originally Posted by dave99rt
Sounds like a setup issue or user error. I encounter 20-30 foot enclosed trailers/campers and rarely do they appear dicey. Some of these people drive all over the country.

At big HDPE and race weekends, there are 1/2 ton trucks (and smaller vehicles) everywhere that pull in with trailers.

By your logic, one would need a 3/4 truck to pull 8k lbs?
8000 lbs? I’d need an F-450 minimum……
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Originally Posted by dgrobs
8000 lbs? I’d need an F-450 minimum……
🤣 Cayenne is rated at 7700. Send it!


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