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Old 07-06-2022, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ProCoach
I know a fair number of folks who chose the class that they race in PCA and elsewhere because they like the people they’re going to be racing with. That’s a better reason than many to pick a specific class car.
ah.... hindsight being 20/20....




JK, that is one of the best aspects of SPC.. great group of folks...
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Old 07-06-2022, 06:06 PM
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I have raced quite a few different of the spec classes in PCA (SPB, SPC, GTC1, GTC3 and GTD1). I think it depends on what your ultimate goal is. SPB will have the largest fields, but the slowest cars. And they break, more frequently than other race cars...at least mine did. It's also hardly cheap if you want to run at the pointy end. SPC is a great bang for the buck, but there are not many used cars for sale...yet. It's a growing class with a really good group of people. GTC3 (996 cup) is the absolute best bang for the buck speed wise, but the field will be small; maybe 1-2 other cars in your class. But you'll always still find someone to race with, it just might out of class. And the class records are often held by pro drivers, so you can compare yourself to some of the best (like Wolf Henzler at Sebring or Leh Keen at the Glen). The GT4 Clubsport is may favorite, but out of the price range.

Btw, huge class fields are very overrated in my view. I've run GTO in WRL with 40+ cars in class. It's no different really than your average PCA race where a typically class has 3-4 cars. You end up racing the people your same speed, whatever class they happen to be in.

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Old 08-16-2022, 11:45 AM
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I'm gonna commit blasphemy here (fire suit on) but I'm gonna throw out another position. Do you feel you have to own your own race car? I get it if you do - it's definitely cool to have your own, see it parked in your garage, etc. But I learned a few years ago that I think the most cost effective way to go racing: arrive-and-drive. And unless you explicitly want to race with PCA (because of fellow friends being competitors, etc.) I would skip that too. Go find a WRL team with seats open - a GP3 class Boxster is more or less a SPB if I understand it correctly, or perhaps even better. Or (IMO, a better option since you're new to racing, just coming out of HPDE) find a ChampCar team with seats open. (ChampCar has a LOT of Boxsters running now - Atlanta Speedwerks built and campaigns two cars in Champ - it's not all hoopties these days).

You can find WRL GP3 teams with seats for rent for around $5k a weekend (or less if you look hard enough), and closer to $3k if you look at ChampCar (or less if you look hard enough). You'll get WAY more seat time overall than you would at any PCA or SCCA sprint weekend (if you include the test day you can usually expect 4-6 hours of time behind the wheel), you're not stuck with a depreciating asset you have to pay to maintain (or try to sell when you want to get out, or upgrade), and so long as you don't crash it, you shouldn't have much in the way of additional surprise expenses. And often the more expensive seats in either of those series include a full dedicated crew, coaching (or at least a "data guy"), food, a place to hang your gear and rest, etc.

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Old 08-16-2022, 12:15 PM
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In the past two weeks, 911CUP added two Rennlisters who've posted in this very thread - Luigi Vampa and 38D - to our field. I think that's speaks volumes!
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Old 08-16-2022, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Jas0nn
In the past two weeks, 911CUP added two Rennlisters who've posted in this very thread - Luigi Vampa and 38D - to our field. I think that's speaks volumes!
I was eating lunch in the NJMP paddock when a white van rolls up. I get dragged inside - hood over my head. Bad things happen, and when they dump me out hours later, I own an old air cooled and am being forced to go racing with them.

911Cup appears to be more of a cult than a PCA class. I don't feel safe.

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Old 08-16-2022, 12:41 PM
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HA! Now two more guys I will be behind at Summit Point! LOL
Old 08-16-2022, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by LuigiVampa

911Cup appears to be more of a cult than a PCA class. I don't feel safe.
Safety is relative.
Old 08-16-2022, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by LuigiVampa
911Cup appears to be more of a cult than a PCA class. I don't feel safe.
First rule of fight club ...
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Old 08-16-2022, 02:38 PM
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ICW Class is best, hard to find though.
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Old 08-16-2022, 03:39 PM
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the Luigi vamps dive bomb class LVDB is best..... bring extra fenders.
Old 08-16-2022, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Geneman
the Luigi vamps dive bomb class LVDB is best..... bring extra fenders.
If you are in a Cup car there is no such thing as a dive bomb because the corner is always yours.
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Old 08-16-2022, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by LuigiVampa
If you are in a Cup car there is no such thing as a dive bomb because the corner is always yours.
In 911Cup the corner is always yours but you have to sometimes share it with the other corner owners while hanging for dear life. A block party of sorts.

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Old 08-16-2022, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by FredC
In 911Cup the corner is always yours but you have to sometimes share it with the other corner owners while hanging for dear life. A block party of sorts.
So long as the ABS works on my new 911Cup works I should be fine in any corner.
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Old 08-16-2022, 09:28 PM
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Just make sure you have Bosch unit. You don’t want the cheap knock offs
Old 08-16-2022, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by LuigiVampa
So long as the ABS works on my new 911Cup works I should be fine in any corner.
Just have faith and push the pedal harder - it works great!


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