Notices
Racing & Drivers Education Forum
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Verstappen a Bully?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-10-2022 | 12:37 PM
  #31  
Veloce Raptor's Avatar
Veloce Raptor
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 41,905
Likes: 1,748
From: All Ate Up With Motor
Default

Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
Just watched the first test and they’re still masked? Wonder if they do that in Florida, Still a while away so hopefully that gets scrapped soon, if Lulu allows it, or they will be the only ones in the state and they’ll be ridiculed.

Silver arrows look badass, go Russel! Much better then BLM black.
Lol I guess some people are still playing "pandemic"
Old 03-10-2022 | 12:47 PM
  #32  
thebishman's Avatar
thebishman
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,062
Likes: 459
Default

Originally Posted by Veloce Raptor
Lol I guess some people are still playing "pandemic"
Not sure how anyone can make a statement like “playing pandemic” when about 1,400 people in the US every day are still dying from Covid related issues and about 1 million extra lives have been lost over the last two years from this vicious disease.
The following 2 users liked this post by thebishman:
PJorgen (03-10-2022), Tedster (03-19-2022)
Old 03-10-2022 | 01:09 PM
  #33  
multi21's Avatar
multi21
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 17,263
Likes: 3,590
Default

It's ironic that everyone was interested in the side pods seen at the Barcelona test. Now Mercedes reveal their real car with no side pods! Could be a game changer, but we'll see if real or if they have cooling issues.
The following users liked this post:
Veloce Raptor (03-10-2022)
Old 03-10-2022 | 02:31 PM
  #34  
Veloce Raptor's Avatar
Veloce Raptor
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 41,905
Likes: 1,748
From: All Ate Up With Motor
Default

Originally Posted by thebishman
Not sure how anyone can make a statement like “playing pandemic” when about 1,400 people in the US every day are still dying from Covid related issues and about 1 million extra lives have been lost over the last two years from this vicious disease.
The mask theater was and is just that.
Old 03-10-2022 | 04:33 PM
  #35  
thebishman's Avatar
thebishman
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,062
Likes: 459
Default

Originally Posted by Veloce Raptor
The mask theater was and is just that.
If so explain this: in the fall/winter of 2020/21 there were almost no cases of seasonal influenza here in the US. whereas in a normal year the US has 40,000-70,000 deaths directly attributable to it. My hospital is almost 33% full in a normal year during that time frame with flu and RSV type cases. Vaccination rates may have been slightly higher than prior years due to responsible people getting vaccinated for Covid and Influenza. However the only major changes between prior years were mask wearing, which was mandated in the majority of the country at that time and social distancing. People just didn’t catch influenza and the only rationale explanation is that masks, (and social distancing plus an increased awareness of hand washing, etc.) worked to markedly lower transmission of that respiratory disease. As it undeniably does with Covid.
The following users liked this post:
Tedster (03-19-2022)
Old 03-10-2022 | 04:47 PM
  #36  
Veloce Raptor's Avatar
Veloce Raptor
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 41,905
Likes: 1,748
From: All Ate Up With Motor
Default

Whatever you need to tell yourself, dude. My post was responding specifically to the individual commenting on the absurdity of Formula One still playing mask theater. Feel free to continue going off on tangential rants as you see fit!
Attached Images  
The following 2 users liked this post by Veloce Raptor:
anthony42hat (03-14-2022), LuigiVampa (03-10-2022)
Old 03-10-2022 | 05:18 PM
  #37  
rsabeebe's Avatar
rsabeebe
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 4,561
Likes: 1,015
From: Plano/DFW
Default




The following users liked this post:
Veloce Raptor (03-11-2022)
Old 03-10-2022 | 08:45 PM
  #38  
Nizer's Avatar
Nizer
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 13,684
Likes: 1,912
From: Wishing I Was At The Track
Default

Originally Posted by thebishman
If so explain this: in the fall/winter of 2020/21 there were almost no cases of seasonal influenza here in the US. whereas in a normal year the US has 40,000-70,000 deaths directly attributable to it. My hospital is almost 33% full in a normal year during that time frame with flu and RSV type cases. Vaccination rates may have been slightly higher than prior years due to responsible people getting vaccinated for Covid and Influenza. However the only major changes between prior years were mask wearing, which was mandated in the majority of the country at that time and social distancing. People just didn’t catch influenza and the only rationale explanation is that masks, (and social distancing plus an increased awareness of hand washing, etc.) worked to markedly lower transmission of that respiratory disease. As it undeniably does with Covid.
Someone needs to explain to me how Florida, which didn't play the Covid hysteria game, is only slightly above mid-pack in Covid deaths per 100,000 while having the sixth oldest population in the country. Washing hands good, staying home when you're sick better, taking extra precaution around the aged and infirm yes, but shutting down schools and businesses every flu season seems a heavy price to pay.
The following 2 users liked this post by Nizer:
LuigiVampa (03-10-2022), Veloce Raptor (03-11-2022)
Old 03-11-2022 | 02:12 AM
  #39  
Estoril's Avatar
Estoril
Instructor
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 153
Likes: 102
Default


The following users liked this post:
iammacey (03-11-2022)
Old 03-11-2022 | 09:03 AM
  #40  
LuigiVampa's Avatar
LuigiVampa
WRONGLY ACCUSED!
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 15,078
Likes: 4,561
From: PCA Gulag
Default

Originally Posted by thebishman
Not sure how anyone can make a statement like “playing pandemic” when about 1,400 people in the US every day are still dying from Covid related issues and about 1 million extra lives have been lost over the last two years from this vicious disease.
While this forum is all about debate your constant stream of pedantic posts are tiresome. You never have anything to add other than an ill-informed "correction" coupled with an offended tone. It's like you are channeling Elizabeth Warren.
The following 3 users liked this post by LuigiVampa:
anthony42hat (03-14-2022), Veloce Raptor (03-11-2022), winders (03-11-2022)
Old 03-12-2022 | 06:14 PM
  #41  
Montaver's Avatar
Montaver
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Jul 2020
Posts: 646
Likes: 515
From: NY/NJ
Default

Mask theatre? LOL.

Consider that if a mechanic gets COVID, and they take down their other team mates that could have a negative impact on their ability to race. Its pretty straightforward. People are so desperate to wear their political affiliations like some badge of honor.

Critiscising 'we race as one' - Ahaha. This forum really is littered with narrow minded old dinosaurs posting the same BS constantly. We all know what happened to the dinosaurs.
Old 03-12-2022 | 06:34 PM
  #42  
winders's Avatar
winders
Thread Starter
Race Car
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 4,600
Likes: 921
From: San Martin, CA
Default

Originally Posted by Montaver
This forum really is littered with narrow minded old dinosaurs posting the same BS constantly.
And I suppose you think you are some sort of open minded, enlightened, and therefore superior person. You are so full of $****....


The following 2 users liked this post by winders:
LuigiVampa (03-13-2022), Veloce Raptor (03-13-2022)
Old 03-12-2022 | 07:31 PM
  #43  
multi21's Avatar
multi21
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 17,263
Likes: 3,590
Default

Originally Posted by Montaver
Mask theatre? LOL.

Consider that if a mechanic gets COVID, and they take down their other team mates that could have a negative impact on their ability to race. Its pretty straightforward. People are so desperate to wear their political affiliations like some badge of honor.

Critiscising 'we race as one' - Ahaha. This forum really is littered with narrow minded old dinosaurs posting the same BS constantly. We all know what happened to the dinosaurs.
It's ponderous to really respond to people that have no clue on what they talk about but let's try, shall we?

When was the last time you heard of a mechanic or single individual in a team take down the entire organization? Several drivers have gotten Covid and Daniel RIC has it right now, but McLaren is not in lockdown because there are testing protocols that prevent that so your argument on face value is ridiculous.

Second, there is perhaps nothing more hypocritical in all of F1 than the stand of "We Race as one" with the rainbow flag as the logo. Ask how LGBTQ are treated in SA, Russia and other countries. Human rights? How about China?

Finally, you forgot the green movement within F1 and their push for be carbon neutral.... It's such a huge scam, but if you say it enough times, I guess weak minded people buy it, I guess. Meanwhile, their multiple 747 freighters to go around the globe, their transporters for their lavish motorhomes, private jets to get to the city where the race takes place and the helicopters from the hotel to the circuit. You're being fleeced and you don't even know it. But go on. Preach.
The following 2 users liked this post by multi21:
LuigiVampa (03-13-2022), Veloce Raptor (03-13-2022)
Old 03-12-2022 | 08:37 PM
  #44  
Montaver's Avatar
Montaver
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Jul 2020
Posts: 646
Likes: 515
From: NY/NJ
Default

Originally Posted by multi21
It's ponderous to really respond to people that have no clue on what they talk about but let's try, shall we?

When was the last time you heard of a mechanic or single individual in a team take down the entire organization? Several drivers have gotten Covid and Daniel RIC has it right now, but McLaren is not in lockdown because there are testing protocols that prevent that so your argument on face value is ridiculous.

Second, there is perhaps nothing more hypocritical in all of F1 than the stand of "We Race as one" with the rainbow flag as the logo. Ask how LGBTQ are treated in SA, Russia and other countries. Human rights? How about China?

Finally, you forgot the green movement within F1 and their push for be carbon neutral.... It's such a huge scam, but if you say it enough times, I guess weak minded people buy it, I guess. Meanwhile, their multiple 747 freighters to go around the globe, their transporters for their lavish motorhomes, private jets to get to the city where the race takes place and the helicopters from the hotel to the circuit. You're being fleeced and you don't even know it. But go on. Preach.
It hasn't taken down a team because of the COVID protocols, which includes mask wearing. I think we are saying the same thing..?

Hypocritical, absolutely. F1 is a for profit enterprise, sadly they don't care where the money comes from. 'Sports washing' is a real thing. Doesn't diminish the value of the message.

I don't see anyone on this thread championing F1's green credentials? If F1 showing some semblance of consideration for the environment allows it to continue without interference, great. This is a racing/DE forum though so I don't think anyone is under any illusions about racing being environmentally friendly..

Old 03-12-2022 | 08:55 PM
  #45  
multi21's Avatar
multi21
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 17,263
Likes: 3,590
Default

Historically F1 has been part politics and part business and every once in a while a race will break out. Bottomline today's F1 is entertainment for the fans and marketing for the manufacturers. F1 has gone full PC but in words only and there isn't a shred of evidence that they are either green or care about human rights. The only thing that matters is cold hard cash.

Believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see. ~ Edgar Allen Poe
The following users liked this post:
LuigiVampa (03-13-2022)


Quick Reply: Verstappen a Bully?



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 08:45 AM.