first track day in new to me Cayman
#16
Legally, no, not streetable.
Do I drive it on the street, once in a while I'll drive it 20 minutes to the shop if I don't feel like trailering her up. I do the speed limit on those rare occasions I drive her to the shop as I do not want to get stopped for ANY reason.
I can think of about 20 things a LEO could write me up for.
Very rarely is it on the street outside my neighborhood.
It's an amazing track car. You will love yours...
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Mark Dreyer (06-21-2020)
#18
. Another cayman guy i met swears by running them at only 30psi hot. :shock: I'll work my way lower in the future to find out.
Sounds about right. I start mid 20’s and like it 29 or 30 hot. That’s on Hoosiers (and most recently Hankook). Your tires may be different. I can always tell when I get above 32 as the car noticeably loses grip.
Sounds about right. I start mid 20’s and like it 29 or 30 hot. That’s on Hoosiers (and most recently Hankook). Your tires may be different. I can always tell when I get above 32 as the car noticeably loses grip.
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Mark Dreyer (06-22-2020)
#20
That’s the exact info for Hoosiers I was given by some track savvy drivers and it has proven to be a good pressure for me. It’s pretty cool how I may not be the best driver out there, but having done the hobby now for 10+ years, I can tell when the pressure goes up only a few psi above that ideal range.
#21
That’s the exact info for Hoosiers I was given by some track savvy drivers and it has proven to be a good pressure for me. It’s pretty cool how I may not be the best driver out there, but having done the hobby now for 10+ years, I can tell when the pressure goes up only a few psi above that ideal range.
#22
Originally Posted by dgrobs
If I get 1.5-2 psi hotter than those numbers, I'm sliding around. It's a fine line...
#23
32-34 psi gets dicey for me.
I'm also not a great driver.
Different strokes I guess...
#24
Peter
#25
Hankook Z214 c51 r-comps: used to run them at 30 to 32 psi hot because that's what I read online that R-comps like Hoosiers should be run at. It's also what Hankook's own racing tire literature states as the target hot pressure. I was cording inside edges of all 4 corners within 10 heat cycles like clockwork at those pressures. 2006 Cayman GTB1 under 2800lbs with me in it.
Then I spoke with Danny von Dongen @ Hankook Motorsport. That's when I found out that the 30-32 psi hot target is for their F200 full slick, not the Z214 C51. Based on my photos he was certain I was collapsing the center of the tire due to too low tire pressure and said he recommends to everyone to target 36-38 psi hot on the Z214 C51. So that's what I ran for my next sets. While the car felt like it had less grip, my data confirmed I still had all my peak lateral grip level, and my lap times DROPPED, and I got 18 HC's out of each set - setting a PB within a few tenths of Mosport's GTB1 track record (which was set on Pirelli slicks) on the 18th & final cycle, with the insides just beginning to cord when I get back to the paddock.
Then I spoke with Danny von Dongen @ Hankook Motorsport. That's when I found out that the 30-32 psi hot target is for their F200 full slick, not the Z214 C51. Based on my photos he was certain I was collapsing the center of the tire due to too low tire pressure and said he recommends to everyone to target 36-38 psi hot on the Z214 C51. So that's what I ran for my next sets. While the car felt like it had less grip, my data confirmed I still had all my peak lateral grip level, and my lap times DROPPED, and I got 18 HC's out of each set - setting a PB within a few tenths of Mosport's GTB1 track record (which was set on Pirelli slicks) on the 18th & final cycle, with the insides just beginning to cord when I get back to the paddock.
#26
Got lucky...
And found a low mileage, well cared for 2015 Cayman GTS. It replaced my 2004 GT3....no regrets. Still learning to drive the car, my first PDK. All I can say is that in my hands, at Laguna Seca, I turned a 1:44.83 in the GT3....the Cayman GTS came up with nearly identical times....how can that be with 45 fewer horses and a nearly stock suspension? My short answer, mid-engine, and the PDK in Sport + mode.
I confess the following has been done to the car:
I confess the following has been done to the car:
- Front brakes from a 991 911S (Direct bolt in),
- GTS front lower control arms for a wee bit more camber
- Tarett Engineering rear adjustable toe links
#27
And found a low mileage, well cared for 2015 Cayman GTS. It replaced my 2004 GT3....no regrets. Still learning to drive the car, my first PDK. All I can say is that in my hands, at Laguna Seca, I turned a 1:44.83 in the GT3....the Cayman GTS came up with nearly identical times....how can that be with 45 fewer horses and a nearly stock suspension? My short answer, mid-engine, and the PDK in Sport + mode.
I confess the following has been done to the car:
I confess the following has been done to the car:
- Front brakes from a 991 911S (Direct bolt in),
- GTS front lower control arms for a wee bit more camber
- Tarett Engineering rear adjustable toe links
#28
And found a low mileage, well cared for 2015 Cayman GTS. It replaced my 2004 GT3....no regrets. Still learning to drive the car, my first PDK. All I can say is that in my hands, at Laguna Seca, I turned a 1:44.83 in the GT3....the Cayman GTS came up with nearly identical times....how can that be with 45 fewer horses and a nearly stock suspension? My short answer, mid-engine, and the PDK in Sport + mode.
I confess the following has been done to the car:
I confess the following has been done to the car:
- Front brakes from a 991 911S (Direct bolt in),
- GTS front lower control arms for a wee bit more camber
- Tarett Engineering rear adjustable toe links
#29
Tires forCAYMAN GTS
Bridgestone RE- 71R, DOT 200
255/40/19 Front
285/40/19 Rear
At 30 heat cycles, no significant wear. A pal is looking at Goodyear Eagle F1 tires, they look interesting, but I ain’t switching.
255/40/19 Front
285/40/19 Rear
At 30 heat cycles, no significant wear. A pal is looking at Goodyear Eagle F1 tires, they look interesting, but I ain’t switching.
#30
Eagle F1s are big downgrade from RE71Rs in terms of grip/speed.