Front tire edges chunking - Roll bar or Wait to Consult with Driving Instructor?
#31
you can try Cup 2s, a little more street but also track capable but expensive. Nitto NT01 or 05. Toyo R888R. not sure about sizes etc, but these are all the popular ones I see. There are more, trofeo Rs etc, but they're super expensive.
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Janton9736 (02-26-2020)
#32
Here's my chunking of my stock Goodyear Eagle F1 asymmetrics:
I'd start with better tires for the track. agree with all about camber as well, but most of us running street tires, even great ones like MS4S or such have the same issue. They're just not meant for the stresses of track use. I ended up getting a set of dedicated track wheels and a set of RE71Rs. much better.
I'd start with better tires for the track. agree with all about camber as well, but most of us running street tires, even great ones like MS4S or such have the same issue. They're just not meant for the stresses of track use. I ended up getting a set of dedicated track wheels and a set of RE71Rs. much better.
-Mike
#33
You know what? I am glad you mentioned Hankook. That made me look to confirm what I THOUGHT I kew about them - that they were made in China, and i refuse to buy Chinese goods anymore as often as possible. But I looked and it appears that Hankook is a SOUTH KOREAN tire company. I will be more open minded to it now, though Id prefer an American or German company.
When I search for Nitto NT01 on TireRack.com it does not show up. And the nitto tire company web page redirects to Toyo. I then found Nittos on something called Discount Tire Direct. huh.
Thank you, back to research..
Jeff
When I search for Nitto NT01 on TireRack.com it does not show up. And the nitto tire company web page redirects to Toyo. I then found Nittos on something called Discount Tire Direct. huh.
Thank you, back to research..
Jeff
Last edited by Janton9736; 02-26-2020 at 12:01 PM. Reason: condensing
#34
You know what? I am glad you mentioned Hankook. That made me look to confirm what I THOUGHT I kew about them - that they were made in China, and i refuse to buy Chinese goods anymore as often as possible. But I looked and it appears that Hankook is a SOUTH KOREAN tire company. I will be more open minded to it now, though Id prefer an American or German company.
When I search for Nitto NT01 on TireRack.com it does not show up. And the nitto tire company web page redirects to Toyo. I then found Nittos on something called Discount Tire Direct. huh.
Thank you, back to research..
Jeff
When I search for Nitto NT01 on TireRack.com it does not show up. And the nitto tire company web page redirects to Toyo. I then found Nittos on something called Discount Tire Direct. huh.
Thank you, back to research..
Jeff
Peter
#35
How about a hitch mount and tire trailer system for your dual duty car? I would do that and run NT01s so you have less compromises all around. May be able to run more cost effective street tires too to save some money!
#36
Generally speaking, Hankook makes good tires. In fact, their Z214s are wonderful on my track car.
Also generally speaking, Nitto NT-01s are terrible in standing water, but they are a good, economical DE tire and are what I typically use on the dedicated track car - the Z214s cost more than double once durability is counted. Do not care for them at all in the wet.
I used to use Nitto NT-05s on my former dual purpose car and I use NT-05s on the track car for wets. NT-05s are very economical to run and hold up to track heat very well. I would argue it is worth getting proficient with NT-05s before investing in NT-01s. The NT-05 is a street tire and can easily be driven to/from the track.
Just because of the thread title, it is worth mentioning that no tire will solve the outer edge wear problem the discussion started with.
-Mike
Also generally speaking, Nitto NT-01s are terrible in standing water, but they are a good, economical DE tire and are what I typically use on the dedicated track car - the Z214s cost more than double once durability is counted. Do not care for them at all in the wet.
I used to use Nitto NT-05s on my former dual purpose car and I use NT-05s on the track car for wets. NT-05s are very economical to run and hold up to track heat very well. I would argue it is worth getting proficient with NT-05s before investing in NT-01s. The NT-05 is a street tire and can easily be driven to/from the track.
Just because of the thread title, it is worth mentioning that no tire will solve the outer edge wear problem the discussion started with.
-Mike
#37
NT01s are the greatest do-all practice/HPDE tire there is. They're extremely forgiving of temps, pressures, cycles, and alignment while being fast enough and durable enough. I actually have a buddy who drove from Mississippi to Watkins Glen on NT01s in an S2000. They're more durable than some of the hot 200tws like RE71Rs. If you're just driving an hour or two to/from the track, I'd rather drive on them than deal with a tire trailer and swapping wheels. They do suck in the rain though so caution is certainly advised.
#38
I do use the Hankook RS4's currently for HPDE stuff and like them for the lower cost, longer lasting and decent performance compared to other 200tw tires. In moderate to lower temperatures you need to take a lot of time and get heat into them as they will chunk easily if you start going 10/10th's too soon.
#39
245/35/19 is only a .3" taller and wider then your 235/35/19 fronts, dont sweat it. Will help turn-in a hair too. RE71 are great but you'll definitely get more mileage out of some Hankook RS4. The 71's lasted me 2,500 highway/track miles to include 11 track days and that's with running 255 on all corners and rotating them left to right, front to back, flipping them on the rims and even running backwards in the dry. Many people gave me the advice that the RS4 is 95% the speed of 71's but last twice as long, lots of amateur endurance guys use them apparently. I put some on in the fall for the last DE of the season, felt great!
#41
NT01s are the greatest do-all practice/HPDE tire there is. They're extremely forgiving of temps, pressures, cycles, and alignment while being fast enough and durable enough. I actually have a buddy who drove from Mississippi to Watkins Glen on NT01s in an S2000. They're more durable than some of the hot 200tws like RE71Rs. If you're just driving an hour or two to/from the track, I'd rather drive on them than deal with a tire trailer and swapping wheels. They do suck in the rain though so caution is certainly advised.