Veloce Raptor

You be the judge:

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...taFZPCKC4.html

RSBro

Well, it's not a "movable aero device" technically, so could this for real be legal?? What a brilliant idea.

sbelles

I'm confused. Are they describing toe or camber?

"Typically an F1 car will be set up so that its front wheels are aligned with ‘toe-out’, which simply means that they splay out at the bottom away from the centre of the car, with the top pointing inwards."

breljohn

I don't think it would infringe on the movable aero rule but rather on the suspension alteration rule that stipulates that the car has to be stopped for suspension changes to be made.
Nevertheless, it's cool to see teams being innovative

CCA

That is the definition of neg. Camber. Toe-out would be, viewed from above, the front of the tire points out and back of tire inwards.

multi21

Mercedes R&D team is simply the best in the business and making a car that's already killing everyone even more untouchable.

sbelles

Yes, I know. Hence my confusion.

CCA

Yeah, I think the writer of the article either described toe-out poorly or doesn't understand the alignment term.
Zeroing toe would reduce the tires' scrubbing speed down the straights, so would be a smart thing to do, if legal.

sbelles

Both would be beneficial, camber probably a little more so but it seems toe would be easier to accomplish mechanically so I'm confused what it actually does. Could be somebody told the writer that it changed the toe but he doesn't understand what it is.

chartersb

Pretty cool if true. A servo making slight changes to the length of the tie rods?

jdistefa

Would this be legal in SPB?

MarcD147

​​​​​​​in the 911CUP they are already running it so I assume so

MarcD147

apparently it is going to be legal:
A team has an innovation and writes a very carefully worded letter to the FIA asking whether it is considered legal.

If it is, the originating team -- and only the originating team -- will get a letter back confirming legality. If not, the team and everyone else gets a letter so that anyone else working on it can stop wasting time and money. It's a good system.


the only way I think it will not be legal if the benefit is too large and it kills competition. this has happened in the past...
I am confident that Mercedes is sufficient skilled at sandbagging that they will prevent this

ProCoach

​​​​​​​Hahahaha!

multi21

I read Ross Brawn’s book and this is the exact method they used in 2009 when they developed the double diffuser. It was deemed to be legal and everyone else was playing catch-up for the rest of the year. Here we have a team that is light years ahead of everyone else and with this new finding will be even further ahead. I don’t begrudge MB, they Discovered a new technology and should benefit from the fruits of their labor. Conversely, the “show” will suffer.