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Old 07-04-2019, 11:38 AM
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Does anyone think that the GT3 driver should have given the GT350 a point by earlier in the session? He seemed right on the GT3's bumper in some turns. It's a DE.

Just wondering.
Yes he should have. And for this he deserves like 5% of the blame IMO
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Old 07-04-2019, 11:43 AM
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Yes he should have. And for this he deserves like 5% of the blame IMO
Umm... No.
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Old 07-04-2019, 11:47 AM
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Holy moly ! When I read the thread title, I was waiting for some other car (not the drivers car) to be the Mustang that hit the GT3. I only watched from the start of the lap with the accident, but the GT3 was completely out of shape in Oak Tree also (not that the GT3 being out of shape was any cause of the incident). Watching the video I just couldnt believe the drivers car didnt start braking at the end of the back straight and was thinking as watching how the help he was going to get the car slowed down. Well, apparently straightlining the corner into another car is an option....

In all seriousness, I do over 35 track days a year and have organized my schedule to run with certain groups, and to absolutely avoid others. I'd love to know what organizer this was so I can absolutely avoid. Just absolutely unbelievable....
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Old 07-04-2019, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevin Fennell View Post
Yes he should have. And for this he deserves like 5% of the blame IMO
I hope that is tongue and cheek... To say any percentage of blame should be laid on the GT3 for this idiot being above his skill level and flat out T-Boning another car is a scary insight into someone's mindset regardless of a "Point By" Not getting a point by you come through the pits, not overdrive and blindside another driver at over 70mph....You were kidding right?
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Umm... No.
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Originally Posted by ELange0322 View Post
Holy moly ! When I read the thread title, I was waiting for some other car (not the drivers car) to be the Mustang that hit the GT3. I only watched from the start of the lap with the accident, but the GT3 was completely out of shape in Oak Tree also (not that the GT3 being out of shape was any cause of the incident). Watching the video I just couldnt believe the drivers car didnt start braking at the end of the back straight and was thinking as watching how the help he was going to get the car slowed down. Well, apparently straightlining the corner into another car is an option....

In all seriousness, I do over 35 track days a year and have organized my schedule to run with certain groups, and to absolutely avoid others. I'd love to know what organizer this was so I can absolutely avoid. Just absolutely unbelievable....
Per the write up

This was the 1st session on Day 2 at VIR with Chin Track Days on 29-30 June 2019
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Old 07-04-2019, 12:03 PM
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For some reason I thought the hit was going to be in T1 so when I was watching as he was coming up the back straight on the final lap, I was thinking "how is he ever going to make that turn" and then the hit, ouch!

How is the driver seat moving around that much? I am surprised it didn't fall loose during the hit.

I track a 986 boxster and now a 987.2 base Cayman so it is crazy for me to see how fast the speed builds up on the mustang, so fast.

I would have loved to ride with the fast GT3 driver in the instructor checkride thread but I wouldn't want to ride in this mustang....

Hope everybody is ok.
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Originally Posted by Kevin Fennell View Post
Yes he should have. And for this he deserves like 5% of the blame IMO
Do you have track insurance and a lap timer?
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Originally Posted by bubba928 View Post
Does anyone think that the GT3 driver should have given the GT350 a point by earlier in the session? He seemed right on the GT3's bumper in some turns. It's a DE.

Just wondering.
The GT3 driver bears zero responsibility for the incident.

Should the GT3 driver have given the Mustang a point-bye 1.5 laps earlier - YES
Was the GT3 ‘battling’ the Mustang driver (some of his passes were suspect) - YES
Was the GT3 driver over driving his car a bit (watch his entry & exit out of Oaktree) - YES
Was the GT3 relying on his HP and superior straight-line speed to gap the Mustang - YES
Does the GT3 driver bear any responsibility for the incident - ABSOLUTELY NOT

Mustang man had a few options (1) take it up with the chiefs at the end of the session, (2) pit in and let the GT3 go and re-enter the track with more room, (3) or simply back off. He chose neither! His description of the incident on YT is ludicrous!
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Originally Posted by ELange0322 View Post
Holy moly ! When I read the thread title, I was waiting for some other car (not the drivers car) to be the Mustang that hit the GT3. I only watched from the start of the lap with the accident, but the GT3 was completely out of shape in Oak Tree also (not that the GT3 being out of shape was any cause of the incident). Watching the video I just couldnt believe the drivers car didnt start braking at the end of the back straight and was thinking as watching how the help he was going to get the car slowed down. Well, apparently straightlining the corner into another car is an option....

In all seriousness, I do over 35 track days a year and have organized my schedule to run with certain groups, and to absolutely avoid others. I'd love to know what organizer this was so I can absolutely avoid. Just absolutely unbelievable....
Erik - pretty atypical for a CHIN event, Mark usually has a tight leash on people. Outlier.

On a more positive note, I'm in NYC and heading to Phillipe again... per your recommendation from a few year ago

See you at Mosport!
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Erik - pretty atypical for a CHIN event, Mark usually has a tight leash on people. Outlier.

On a more positive note, I'm in NYC and heading to Phillipe again... per your recommendation from a few year ago

See you at Mosport!
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So much for the Chin checkout ride...
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So much for the Chin checkout ride...
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Old 07-04-2019, 12:47 PM
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I don't know how you guys can say "he should have pointed him by" and "absolutely 0% to blame" in the same sentance.

I point by people who are slower then me or who shouldnt be in front all the time just to not drive near them. Traffic management is part of DE. He didnt deserve to get hit, it isn't his "fault" but if he had done something different it wouldn't have happened.

Mustang driver is obviously a red misted idiot, but as my dad used to say when I was a kid, it doesnt matter if you get hit riding your bike and the driver was "wrong" you still might be dead.
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