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Old 07-03-2019, 07:01 PM
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How many DE cars on-track at one time is too many for The Glen? I just checked out the attendee list for an upcoming event I'm going to. There are 61 cars signed up for my run group (containing both Blue and White drivers).

I assume there is a point where traffic gets just too annoying. How many is too many for WGI?
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Originally Posted by mgordon18
How many DE cars on-track at one time is too many for The Glen? I just checked out the attendee list for an upcoming event I'm going to. There are 61 cars signed up for my run group (containing both Blue and White drivers).

I assume there is a point where traffic gets just too annoying. How many is too many for WGI?
10 per mile is ideal IMO, but I think some groups will (have to?) do 15-20. I don't like to run with those groups.
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Originally Posted by Thundermoose
10 per mile is ideal IMO, but I think some groups will (have to?) do 15-20. I don't like to run with those groups.
That's a good way of thinking about it. This would be about 18 cars/mile if everyone is out there.
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Should be fine as long as you are in the Flat Out run group...

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Should be fine as long as you are in the Flat Out run group...

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LOL. I get track insurance, but I drive Slow and Scared. I don't think there's a group for that. Maybe "Scared But Prepared?"
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I've done a couple events at WGI with that many cars on the track and I didn't really enjoy it. There will inevitably be slow cars/drivers who don't give prompt point-by's, which leads to trains building up quickly. Also, with that many cars, black-flagged sessions are inevitable when people break down or crash. If it's an advanced group where everybody is fast, then it may not be so bad.
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70 cars per run group during the pca club race this year. Not a problem but thats with unrestricted passing.
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Thundermoose: What, you can only drive if you have the track to yourself? I know you want to do two laps by yourself and set a class track record.

OP: WGI is fast and flowing and as long as your fellow drivers are aware and courteous and you have expanded passing it should be fine. By the way managing traffic is part of the track experience. I normally line up near the rear of field so I get to meet and interact with my fellow drivers.
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Originally Posted by Texas RS
What, you can only drive if you have the track to yourself? I know you want to do two laps by yourself and set a class track record.

OP: WGI is fast and flowing and as long as your fellow drivers are aware and courteous and you have expanded passing it should be fine. By the way managing traffic is part of the track experience. I normally line up near the rear of field so I get to meet and interact with my fellow drivers.
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We had 57 in the Black group a couple weeks ago. I thought it was fine and have no complaints. I got lots of clean laps and was by my self for large periods of time, but I was usually in the first row of cars to go out. I only remember getting held up once when I ran into a group of 5 in the bus stop that I think had some White drivers getting checkouts, but the car I was chasing and myself were both through them all by the heel. Good awareness and traffic management from everyone.

What’s funny to me is I was looking through the pictures of the sessions, and I saw cars I had no idea were in my group. Never saw them the whole weekend. You would think you’d line up near someone at least once, but not with that many cars.
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Originally Posted by Texas RS
Thundermoose: What, you can only drive if you have the track to yourself? I know you want to do two laps by yourself and set a class track record.

OP: WGI is fast and flowing and as long as your fellow drivers are aware and courteous and you have expanded passing it should be fine. By the way managing traffic is part of the track experience. I normally line up near the rear of field so I get to meet and interact with my fellow drivers.
I do like me an open track
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60 is absolutely fine at wgi. That’s 18 per mile or so. Scca races more than that. Frankly, I prefer a busy track in the Extended passing groups.
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Originally Posted by mhm993
60 is absolutely fine at wgi. That’s 18 per mile or so. Scca races more than that. Frankly, I prefer a busy track in the Extended passing groups.
No extended passing in this group. Blue is an instructed group and White doesn't do extended passing. But hopefully I'll be pleasantly surprised. I don't mind a little traffic. I like having people to chase down, and well-moving traffic livens up a session. Trains, on the other hand...
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Originally Posted by mhm993
60 is absolutely fine at wgi. That’s 18 per mile or so. Scca races more than that. Frankly, I prefer a busy track in the Extended passing groups.
SCCA is 25 per mile...
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