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07-10-2019 | 10:51 AM
#107
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Joined: Jan 2016
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From: On a pygmy pony over by the dental floss bush
FLAT OUT is about more than training Okie, it's a mindset, an attitude, an ego and especially an inability to listen!! Plus you have to be able to reference Youtube comments regularly apparently...
These are natural traits you either have or you don't, we can't teach you, it's a natural thing, some have it some don't
(Not to mention insurance and a lap timer!)
These are natural traits you either have or you don't, we can't teach you, it's a natural thing, some have it some don't
(Not to mention insurance and a lap timer!)And I really like the energy and bold, woke ideas brought to the stale 2020 landscape.
07-10-2019 | 11:08 AM
#109
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Joined: Jun 2008
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From: Durham, NC and Virginia International Raceway
I came up through the normal HPDE programs where this very behavior was discouraged, therefore I don’t have these traits. Is there a school out there that will deprogram my ‘good behaviors’ and show me the path to becoming Flat Out? I really want to be Flat Out, that’s so much more impressive with my non-track friends (I’m really not insecure but I need more ‘likes’). 
07-10-2019 | 11:32 AM
#110
Instructor
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 165
Likes: 16
From: Midwest
FLAT OUT is about more than training Okie, it's a mindset, an attitude, an ego and especially an inability to listen!! Plus you have to be able to reference Youtube comments regularly apparently...
These are natural traits you either have or you don't, we can't teach you, it's a natural thing, some have it some don't (Not to mention insurance and a lap timer!)
These are natural traits you either have or you don't, we can't teach you, it's a natural thing, some have it some don't
(Not to mention insurance and a lap timer!)Thus I was very comfortable at NCM by my 3rd event with Blue Grass CCA Bimmers who did have an instructor ride with me, out of respect i followed every instruction and was complimented on my accuracy of hitting the blue marks at apexes.
Here is kicker I was black flagged during instructive session by a corner worker that thought i was having medical issues evidenced by how much slower (smoother) i was driving .
He must have noticed my limit of control "flat-out" driving in prior fun solo sessions thus could not reconcile that under instruction he no longer noticed all the 4 wheel drifts and late braking moves including left foot trail braking into corners lifting inside rear wheel.
Does that make me a "natural" i can take the truth , give it to me LOL i want to be a "Flat Out" driving Instructor
07-10-2019 | 12:04 PM
#113
Racer
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 445
Likes: 218
Man, someone already told you to stop digging when you are already in a hole but you just can't help shoveling deeper huh?
What you just posted is the biggest load of crap since what I dropped in the bowl 5 minutes ago. Just stop dude. Yes, people are making fun of your comments directly and indirectly because of the stupidity they contain and your desire to prove an entire forum wrong. You and your 3.5 years and 65 DE days who is so obviously the expert on all of this...
Maybe the fact SO MANY are mocking your comments should tell you more about your comments than anything else.... #TAKEAHINT #TRYLISTENING
Seriously man, you're trying to prove a point with random youtube posts that don't even tie into the discussion and you can't even tell the person who said they shaved two seconds after buying "a track insurance" was most likely being sarcastic, hence the smiley...
You really need to stop trying to "prove a point" and "be right." Your youtube commentary isn't going to convince anyone here.
What you just posted is the biggest load of crap since what I dropped in the bowl 5 minutes ago. Just stop dude. Yes, people are making fun of your comments directly and indirectly because of the stupidity they contain and your desire to prove an entire forum wrong. You and your 3.5 years and 65 DE days who is so obviously the expert on all of this...
Maybe the fact SO MANY are mocking your comments should tell you more about your comments than anything else.... #TAKEAHINT #TRYLISTENING
Seriously man, you're trying to prove a point with random youtube posts that don't even tie into the discussion and you can't even tell the person who said they shaved two seconds after buying "a track insurance" was most likely being sarcastic, hence the smiley...
You really need to stop trying to "prove a point" and "be right." Your youtube commentary isn't going to convince anyone here.
ahhh. you guys brought me into this discussion.
Anyways; Its you guys who have lost or don't even have any credibility on this topic/issue. It just seems you guys don't know this or are oblivious to it. I haven't seen any substantive postings from any of you guys..
But, carry on. You guys are the long time posters
07-10-2019 | 12:37 PM
#115
Racer
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 445
Likes: 218
Paul, since you started this thread and want to seem to keep this topic going:
In the last 12 months or make it 24 months - How many HPDE events have you attended/driven in, which run group within those events? Which track organizer?, which track? Private days, corporate events, lifestyle clubs who happen to have track days don't count.
07-10-2019 | 12:42 PM
#116
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Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 3,599
Likes: 337
From: Summit Point, probably
Sure, do you want the large tub with free re-fills -
Paul, since you started this thread and want to seem to keep this topic going:
In the last 12 months or make it 24 months - How many HPDE events have you attended/driven in, which run group within those events? Which track organizer?, which track? Private days, corporate events, lifestyle clubs who happen to have track days don't count.
Paul, since you started this thread and want to seem to keep this topic going:
In the last 12 months or make it 24 months - How many HPDE events have you attended/driven in, which run group within those events? Which track organizer?, which track? Private days, corporate events, lifestyle clubs who happen to have track days don't count.
So with YYC, I stand.
YYC2020!!!!
07-10-2019 | 12:43 PM
#117
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Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 6,803
Likes: 1,862
From: The Swamps of Jersey/WGI/VIR...
Sure, do you want the large tub with free re-fills -
Paul, since you started this thread and want to seem to keep this topic going:
In the last 12 months or make it 24 months - How many HPDE events have you attended/driven in, which run group within those events? Which track organizer?, which track? Private days, corporate events, lifestyle clubs who happen to have track days don't count.
Paul, since you started this thread and want to seem to keep this topic going:
In the last 12 months or make it 24 months - How many HPDE events have you attended/driven in, which run group within those events? Which track organizer?, which track? Private days, corporate events, lifestyle clubs who happen to have track days don't count.
As for Paul, he sucks. Can't drive worth a lick. Still runs in Green run group but has a souped up spec boxster with a nice wrap to make him look like he knows what he's doing.
Truth is he sucks on the track. During a 20 minute run session earlier this year at The Glen, I lapped him 4 times. Yes, in 20 minutes. I think he did finally break 4 minutes at The Glen though, so I suppose he is improving.
Truth is, he really knows nothing and should be bowing to your track expertise. If he ever lost his ridiculous level of stubbornness, he would probably learn something from you....
07-10-2019 | 12:44 PM
#118
Racer
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 445
Likes: 218
Why do I support YYC2020? It's the commitment I see day to day. It's the steadfast refusal, in the face of immense opposition and contradiction by things like logic and reason, to be swayed into "getting it" as the kids say. Find me another candidate who so doggedly "has no idea" or "misses the point" and I'll listen. But I don't think you can.
So with YYC, I stand.
YYC2020!!!!
So with YYC, I stand.
YYC2020!!!!
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07-10-2019 | 12:46 PM
#120
Racer
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 445
Likes: 218
Yes, large tub, free refills. Lots of butter, or butter flavored chemically enhanced butter flavored products will do as well.
As for Paul, he sucks. Can't drive worth a lick. Still runs in Green run group but has a souped up spec boxster with a nice wrap to make him look like he knows what he's doing.
Truth is he sucks on the track. During a 20 minute run session earlier this year at The Glen, I lapped him 4 times. Yes, in 20 minutes. I think he did finally break 4 minutes at The Glen though, so I suppose he is improving.
Truth is, he really knows nothing and should be bowing to your track expertise. If he ever lost his ridiculous level of stubbornness, he would probably learn something from you....
As for Paul, he sucks. Can't drive worth a lick. Still runs in Green run group but has a souped up spec boxster with a nice wrap to make him look like he knows what he's doing.
Truth is he sucks on the track. During a 20 minute run session earlier this year at The Glen, I lapped him 4 times. Yes, in 20 minutes. I think he did finally break 4 minutes at The Glen though, so I suppose he is improving.
Truth is, he really knows nothing and should be bowing to your track expertise. If he ever lost his ridiculous level of stubbornness, he would probably learn something from you....