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Old 11-18-2018, 01:37 PM
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I drove the enduro this year at Summit Point and it was raining pretty hard at certain points. I remember bearing down on turn 1 a few times thinking, "God, I hope no one is spun in the middle of the track because I can't see anything." The spray was enormous and totally obscured my vision.

Making matters worse, not everyone had turned their lights on so a few cars were all but invisible until you were right up on them.

I'm thinking a rain light would make racing in the rain far less dangerous. Rain lights cost less than $100 and a little bit more than that to have professionally install.

https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pr...RoCdGMQAvD_BwE

I really think it is something which would improve safety as well as making it more pleasant to drive since we would have a better idea of where cars were on the road.

Among the people that race in the rain what are the thoughts out there?
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I have already suggested that to Vicki and Walt. It would help if others made the same suggestion.
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We require them in BMWCCA and NASA and they make things SO much safer. Also, that Pegasus light is garbage. You want either the Lifeline FIA light or the Cartek FIA light.

​​​​​​https://www.moreheadspeedworks.com/p...ed-rain-light/

​​​​​​https://www.moreheadspeedworks.com/p...ed-rain-light/

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Originally Posted by Frank 993 C4S
I have already suggested that to Vicki and Walt. It would help if others made the same suggestion.
I'm going to send an email soon.

Originally Posted by Paddy
We require them in BMWCCA and NASA and they make things SO much safer. Also, that Pegasus light is garbage. You want either the Lifeline FIA light or the Cartek FIA light.

​​​​​​https://www.moreheadspeedworks.com/p...ed-rain-light/

​​​​​​https://www.moreheadspeedworks.com/p...ed-rain-light/
Thanks for the recommendations. I'm thinking of putting one on my car regardless of the lack of a requirement. If it prevents someone from rear-ending me in a race it will more than pay for itself.
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Good idea. Also probably a good idea if I can get the guys to make the fast setting on my wipers work....I spent that same Enduro on medium speed the whole time!
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Originally Posted by brownan
Good idea. Also probably a good idea if I can get the guys to make the fast setting on my wipers work....I spent that same Enduro on medium speed the whole time!
I just asked SST to install the first rain light Paddy recommend. If it means someone doesn't collect me than I think it more than paid for itself.

During the Summit race I was looking out my side window at times to see where I was. I can only imagine how bad it was on medium speed!

Lastly, I sent an email to Walt advocating a rule change. For the relatively small price I think the safety benefit is enormous.
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Who do we send an email to?
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Originally Posted by breljohn
Who do we send an email to?
Walt Fricke ‐ walterfricke@msn.com

I also put in my email that I believe the rule should be that you have to run with your lights on if it is raining in addition to the rain light.

It would make racing in the rain much more enjoyable if you could actually see the other cars!
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which version? kinda like the one w rain light and hazard.

https://www.cartekmotorsport.com/fia-rain-light/

should a rain light be flashing or static when in low vis wet conditions?
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Originally Posted by LuigiVampa
Walt Fricke ‐ walterfricke@msn.com

I also put in my email that I believe the rule should be that you have to run with your lights on if it is raining in addition to the rain light.

It would make racing in the rain much more enjoyable if you could actually see the other cars!
that's if you have lights...
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Sent Walt a note. Thanks for getting this started. Good idea.

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Should be a must. Made the suggestion to WF a couple of years back. A very inexpensive safety feature
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need to submit a rules change proposal when the window opens, just emailing Walt raises the issue to the fore, which is good, but there's a process to follow and it takes time and only happens once a year I think. I mention this only to save Walt's inbox
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Originally Posted by Fumes
which version? kinda like the one w rain light and hazard.

https://www.cartekmotorsport.com/fia-rain-light/

should a rain light be flashing or static when in low vis wet conditions?
I think flashing is good to distinguish from a brake light. That being said, I am not married to a single idea.

Originally Posted by breljohn
that's if you have lights...
All the more reason for a rain light!

Originally Posted by brownan
Gave sent Walt a note. Thanks for getting this started. Good idea.
If it keeps us all safe it is a good idea.

Originally Posted by 944Cup
Should be a must. Made the suggestion to WF a couple of years back. A very inexpensive safety feature
For the price of a single tire you can buy a rain light and have it installed!

Originally Posted by Fumes
need to submit a rules change proposal when the window opens, just emailing Walt raises the issue to the fore, which is good, but there's a process to follow and it takes time and only happens once a year I think. I mention this only to save Walt's inbox
I heard back from Walt and he says it was discussed but more people were against it than for it. However, the conversation continues. It is too late for a rule change for 2019 so I said PCA could "suggest" it for 2019 much the same way a rear facing camera is a suggestion currently. There is a possibility of this happening.

Walt is a reasonable guy so perhaps we can make a rule change happen by 2020 with a suggestion for 2019.


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