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Old 10-15-2018, 06:00 PM
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As a former road racer, I still have the track habit. As fun as it is with my Panamera GTS, I'm looking for a car more dedicated to track shenanigans. So with my previous track experiences having been either on two-wheels or with a roof over my head, I am considering a Boxster s. I'm looking for input, info, and/or advice on the in's and out's of running an open topped vehicle on track. No racing at this point, just open track days. Thanks!

Oh, the vehicle I'm considering has extended roll bar, harnesses, etc.
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Originally Posted by turbodogs02 View Post
As a former road racer, I still have the track habit. As fun as it is with my Panamera GTS, I'm looking for a car more dedicated to track shenanigans. So with my previous track experiences having been either on two-wheels or with a roof over my head, I am considering a Boxster s. I'm looking for input, info, and/or advice on the in's and out's of running an open topped vehicle on track. No racing at this point, just open track days. Thanks!

Oh, the vehicle I'm considering has extended roll bar, harnesses, etc.

Go for it. Some groups might not let you run with a convertible. Some will make you keep it up. Some will let you keep it down. Boxster S is a great platform.
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most groups are satisfied with the extended roll hoop and arm restraints
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There's also a healthy used market re. Boxster factory hard tops.
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Old 10-15-2018, 09:28 PM
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Take a close look at the shoulder strap mounting and angle to the driver HNR (hans or hybrid). I have seen 986 and 987 set ups with the shoulder straps wrapped on the factory roll hoops which often results in incorrect angle for the HNR.
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Get a coupe IMO....
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Old 10-16-2018, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Cory M View Post
most groups are satisfied with the extended roll hoop and arm restraints
This. If anyone challenges the use of convertibles on track, look how many open top Miatas are out there.

If you're exceptionally tall, make sure you can pass a broom test with your helmet on.
There are a few tracks and clubs that still ban convertibles, but that's becoming more rare.

I read a lot of things that said the soft top 986 is still not allowed in many events, but the 987 and newer are. Not sure how accurate this is.

Expect the Boxster to be a bit heavier and less rigid than a Cayman, but they can also be found for much cheaper.
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986 not allowed at events? what? No one has ever said anything about my 986 not being allowed, and thats with multiple clubs. Rollbar extension from brey krause and you're good to go.

the platform is fantastic, the m96/m97 are dodgy as hell. Its a great car to drive on track, but I wish I didn't have to worry so much about engine reliability.
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986 not allowed at events? what? No one has ever said anything about my 986 not being allowed, and thats with multiple clubs. Rollbar extension from brey krause and you're good to go.
That may have been what it was: the 986 requires the roll bar extension whereas many clubs allow the 987 with the factory roll bar.
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Originally Posted by zedcat View Post
Take a close look at the shoulder strap mounting and angle to the driver HNR (hans or hybrid). I have seen 986 and 987 set ups with the shoulder straps wrapped on the factory roll hoops which often results in incorrect angle for the HNR.
+1.

I know which car you are considering and the shoulder-harness angle could be off based on the photos. Find out the seller's height (and short/normal/long torso) and get a photo of him wearing the harness in the car. https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/ar...acing-harness/

Otherwise it looks like a good deal.
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Go for it! Looking at a 14 S myself. Let us know what happens.
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Originally Posted by Olemiss540 View Post
Get a coupe IMO....
Can I ask why you say this? Is this based on any factual evidence or is it just biased opinion?

987 Boxster with the factory, triangulated, welded-to-chassis roll bar is - I submit - safer than a Cayman in a rollover if wearing arm restraints. Now, if one has a Cayman (or any coupe, e.g. M3) then adds a roll bar, that's a different scenario. But let's cool off on the "if you have an open top, you're gonna die (or get severely injured)" nonsense. As has been shown, 987 roll bar is fine in a roll over.
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Great replies and info, thanks everyone. I've read about the arm restraints, so I do appreciate that mention as well. This is a 986 Boxster and it does have the Brey Kraus extension. Thanks for the suggestion of the "broom stick test". There's also deep sump, etc., so there are some nice bits on the car. It does seem that I've seen a lot of pictures of the Boxsters with the hard tops attached, which is what prompted me to start this. But as was mentioned earlier, just about any Miata I've seen is running as an open top car.

With that said, for anyone having run or currently running open top.....do find there to be any annoying air pressures in the car, or any buffeting, or other negative aspects? Sorry not sure how to phrase that question, as I've never experience track speeds in an open top car.
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+1.

I know which car you are considering and the shoulder-harness angle could be off based on the photos. Find out the seller's height (and short/normal/long torso) and get a photo of him wearing the harness in the car. https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/ar...acing-harness/

Otherwise it looks like a good deal.
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Originally Posted by turbodogs02 View Post
Great replies and info, thanks everyone. I've read about the arm restraints, so I do appreciate that mention as well. This is a 986 Boxster and it does have the Brey Kraus extension. Thanks for the suggestion of the "broom stick test". There's also deep sump, etc., so there are some nice bits on the car. It does seem that I've seen a lot of pictures of the Boxsters with the hard tops attached, which is what prompted me to start this. But as was mentioned earlier, just about any Miata I've seen is running as an open top car.

With that said, for anyone having run or currently running open top.....do find there to be any annoying air pressures in the car, or any buffeting, or other negative aspects? Sorry not sure how to phrase that question, as I've never experience track speeds in an open top car.
If you can, run it top up. No buffeting at all, very calm cabin and you are wedged in pretty tight so its nice
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