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sautan 05-09-2018 03:29 PM

Top 3 Racing Schools in the USA you would recommend
 
Hello. I just completed a 2-days performance driving school at Spring Mountain, which mainly caters for Corvette owner. I signed up without knowing it since I was just trying to learn proper racing technique. Nevertheless, I still got a lot out of it in term of basic stuffs and definitely improve my knowledge and skill at the end of the day. I was able to go from wobbly 40mph to consistent 75mph on the sweeper and definitely improve driving line, braking technique, throttle steer, enter and exit corner and etc. Even though i have signed up with the same school for advance level but wonder if there is any other racing school that is not cater to specific make/model's owner? The reason being some of the times were wasted on talking about the specific car's function. I am looking for true racing school that focus on teaching student racing stuffs and not how to connect bluetooth, customize your radio, speedometer color, sport mode selection, apple car play and etc.

My ultimate goal is to obtain a racing license even though I am not going to race but just personal goal. Thank you.

ExMB 05-09-2018 04:10 PM

Did you search on here first? There are numerous threads discussing schools.

IMHO getting a license without going out and having/getting some experience is worthless. Unless its just/all about bragging rights which I inferred from your post.

sautan 05-09-2018 04:30 PM

For personal goal and self satisfaction. But you never know. I may go out and race 1-2 times a year but definitely I will do a lot of track days. Just personal fun, personal goal and self satisfaction.

ExMB 05-09-2018 04:39 PM

In that case start doing some HPDEs first and use all the free instruction you can get. Then, once you plateau, get professional coaching

ProCoach 05-09-2018 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by sautan (Post 14998103)
I signed up without knowing it since I was just trying to learn proper racing technique. Nevertheless, I still got a lot out of it in term of basic stuffs.

I am looking for true racing school that focus on teaching student racing stuffs.

My ultimate goal is to obtain a racing license even though I am not going to race but just personal goal. Thank you.

There are seven schools I recommend.

Many use purpose-built, open wheel or competition prepared GT cars. All will prepare you for a competition license, whether you decide to get one or not.

Skip Barber Racing School. New owners, new cars, incredibly experienced staff. At major tracks in the East. I have no hesitation recommending them because of the commitment the new owners have made to return the school to the level it was more than a decade ago. Terry Earwood is leading many of the schools and stalwarts like MHP and others are the upper level of racing instructors around. The curriculum is tried and tested over decades.

Bertil Roos Racing School, new owners but still led by one of the best in the business, Dennis Macchio. Decades of the experience, primarily runs open wheel cars in the Southeast and Northeast. Great, hardcore school. Bruce MacInnes and Olympic ski record holder Divina Galica are star instructors.

Lucas Oil School of Motor Racing. Newest formula cars equipped with data and video, top notch instructors like Todd Snyder, Randy Buck, Jonatan Jorge and others. Primarily in Florida but branching out to the Northeast at Lime Rock and others major tracks.

LevelUp Racing Schools. Based at Road America and also at Atlanta Motorsport Park, this school is owned by top instructor Peter Stolz, and he is often joined by other incredibly experienced staff such as Steve DeBrecht, Keith Watts and twice Daytona 24 (once class, once overall) and Sebring 12 Hour overall race winner, “gentleman Jim” Pace. Uses Miatas but you may get more wheel to wheel racing experience in this school during a two or three-day than most others.

Allen Berg. Formula cars at Laguna Seca, what else needs to be said? Allen is superb, and his staff is terrific.

SimRaceWay at Sonoma and Bondurant in Arizona offer good programs but a little more on the “experience” side, although there are terrific instructors at each.

There are more, but the first four are worth going to. For anyone...

sautan 05-09-2018 07:08 PM

Thank you ProCoach. Will the formula car benefit me since those are ultra high performance car and my car is normal street car! Can i apply the same technique on the street car?

ProCoach 05-09-2018 07:13 PM

While the stability control, anti lock braking and other safety nets in your street car make it much easier, the laws of physics don’t know the difference between the purpose built cars and your high Performance street car.

The foundation that you will learn at these schools of the best execution of fundamental skills is universal across all cars...

sautan 05-09-2018 07:23 PM

Cool. So I guess it won't go wrong with whichever I pick? Most likely Allen due to shorter distant to travel. BTW, i am in Los Angeles.

ProCoach 05-09-2018 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by sautan (Post 14998687)
Cool. So I guess it won't go wrong with whichever I pick? Most likely Allen due to shorter distant to travel. BTW, i am in Los Angeles.

Berg runs a great, serious program. You’ll get good value from it. https://www.allenbergracingschools.com/

Do a two-day, better yet a three-day program and you’ll really get some good feedback and guidance.

sautan 05-09-2018 08:50 PM

Well, change of heart and going to Bondurant's 4 days program. Me and my wife.

ProCoach 05-09-2018 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by sautan (Post 14998821)
Well, change of heart and going to Bondurant's 4 days program. Me and my wife.

A family that tracks together...

Andy Lee, BJ Zacharias, Caanan O'Connell and a ton of good instructors there.

Have fun!

LuigiVampa 05-09-2018 10:05 PM

I received my race license after several years of DE with PCA. I'm skeptical that a three day program can provide someone with the experience they need to go racing. If someone has a bunch of track experience, and they use a race school as a "finishing school", I can understand it. But in the absence of other track experience I am skeptical.

Opinions?

HelpMeHelpU 05-10-2018 01:05 AM


Originally Posted by LuigiVampa
.... I'm skeptical that a three day program can provide someone with the experience they need to go racing. If someone has a bunch of track experience, and they use a race school as a "finishing school", I can understand it. But in the absence of other track experience I am skeptical.

Opinions?

I don't disagree but Porsche SDS offers a racing license after completing their level two (or three, don't recall which) courses.

Dr.Bill 05-10-2018 02:26 AM


Originally Posted by sautan (Post 14998821)
Well, change of heart and going to Bondurant's 4 days program. Me and my wife.

Be sure to check in the sales forum. There are often gift certificates available for Bondurant.
They also have some better prices in the summer when it's 110 in the shade here.

zedcat 05-10-2018 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by HelpMeHelpU (Post 14999264)
I don't disagree but Porsche SDS offers a racing license after completing their level two (or three, don't recall which) courses.

PSDS does not provide a license, You can apply for SCCA license after completion of Masters RS or Masters RSR. For someone with no track experience requires completion of 2 day Precision course+ 2 day Masters course+ 3day Masters RS.


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