SC2 vs NT01
#1
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SC2 vs NT01
I’m currently running SC2’s on a 997.1 GT3RS. As much as I like the tires, I don’t like that they heat cycle out well ahead of tread wear which for me means I don’t know when to replace them (drive to track/no trailer so can’t simply swap wheels when they go).
Interested in opinions: is switching to NT01 just an easier and more predictable wear cycle? Pros/cons?
I am not concerned about 1-2 secs, don’t need wet weather performance, and am running 305/30/19” and 235/35/19”.
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Matty
Interested in opinions: is switching to NT01 just an easier and more predictable wear cycle? Pros/cons?
I am not concerned about 1-2 secs, don’t need wet weather performance, and am running 305/30/19” and 235/35/19”.
Thanks
Matty
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I’m currently running SC2’s on a 997.1 GT3RS. As much as I like the tires, I don’t like that they heat cycle out well ahead of tread wear which for me means I don’t know when to replace them (drive to track/no trailer so can’t simply swap wheels when they go).
Interested in opinions: is switching to NT01 just an easier and more predictable wear cycle? Pros/cons?
I am not concerned about 1-2 secs, don’t need wet weather performance, and am running 305/30/19” and 235/35/19”.
Thanks
Matty
Interested in opinions: is switching to NT01 just an easier and more predictable wear cycle? Pros/cons?
I am not concerned about 1-2 secs, don’t need wet weather performance, and am running 305/30/19” and 235/35/19”.
Thanks
Matty
From what I can see these days, most people go for the Bridgestone RE71R, which has cost effectiveness of NT01 and sophistication of Cup2.
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I read, that MC2 don’t actually heat cycle out. They have a harder rubber layer under the soft good stuff and if you know what to look for you can see the different layers once you wear into them. That matches my experience, and yeah, after a few days they fall off. For a street/track car that probably makes sense, in that you will always have a decent street tire to drive home on. For the track it makes for an expensive tire budget. Could almost be running R7s (trailering obviously). I didn’t particularly love the MC2s. I liked the RE71Rs better, by quite a bit. They are as sticky, if not more so, and also good on the street, although they make funny noises when driving over tar patches
i also am am liking the R888R tires better than NT01, for equivalent performance (both a step down from MC2 and RE71r). But all this is pretty subjective.
i also am am liking the R888R tires better than NT01, for equivalent performance (both a step down from MC2 and RE71r). But all this is pretty subjective.
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Have you both found the RE71R to be more consistent through the tread life than the SC2?
Not knowing when the SC2 is going to start falling off is the real issue I have. At $1600 a go, I cant say replacing them too early excites me, but at the same time having confidence they will be somewhat consistent through the next track day is also important. Very tricky!
Thanks for sharing your experiences.
Matty
Not knowing when the SC2 is going to start falling off is the real issue I have. At $1600 a go, I cant say replacing them too early excites me, but at the same time having confidence they will be somewhat consistent through the next track day is also important. Very tricky!
Thanks for sharing your experiences.
Matty
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I found the RE71R tires to be pretty consistent through their life. If they have a weakness it's heat. Overcook them and it's hard to cool them down, and if you don't they will wear very quickly.
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Interesting. And what pressure do you target hot on the RE71R? With the SC2 I am targeting 32F/34R and found they get greasy quickly at just a few PSI higher than that.
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Before I started to trailer, I would drive to the track on the NT01 and although loud, they were fine and never cycled out. In fact, they got better and better as they got down to the cords. I've got a set of R888R that I'm trying out now and they seem to be equal to the NT01 so far, but haven't use them up yet. The old 888 would horrible and would cycle out with half the tread still on the tire. Can't speak to the RE71 as they don't make sizes for my car but have heard great things about them.
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I'm running the 71's on my CS. 19's in stock sizes. They grip well but they don't handle heat and that causes the pressures to spike on track significantly. I'll start out at 27 psi and I pull off when they get to 40+psi. This is in a 20 minute session.
#9
When I was running RE71r (I’ve since switched to R7s) I targeted about 32 hot. Would start at about 27 cold and then bleed aggressively.
#10
On a lighter car (E36) I've had good luck targeting 37/38 psi hot. Any lower and they would roll over the edges (Bridgestone has the markers on the sides to indicate where that is). If you do not overdrive the tire they are very predictable and seem to last a long time (e.g., have seen people take them down to the cords).
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on my 997.1 Gt3, I target 29 front and 32 rear (245/35/19 and 305/35/19) and it seems to work well on my SC2s. I will say that after 20-22 sessions, I need to replace them as I feel like they have heat cycled out. This is a first for me as the treads seem fine.
I feel your pain I guess is what I am trying to say!?
I feel your pain I guess is what I am trying to say!?