Rob Wilson, racing coach
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Rob Wilson, racing coach
Recently I've read a lot about Rob Wilson, the well-known UK racing coach. He has coached a large number of F1 drivers, including Montoya, Kimi, Hamilton. He coaches them driving a Vauxhaul rental car at Bruntinthorpe proving grounds (a crappy little airport track).
I think this guy is full of @!!#%. What I don't get is why he is able to attract so many pro drivers to his school.
What do you guys think?
I think this guy is full of @!!#%. What I don't get is why he is able to attract so many pro drivers to his school.
What do you guys think?
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Rob doesn’t run “a school.”
Not sure where your impression comes from?
Have you ever spoken to him?
What he does and the way he does it is unique.
And effective.
He doesn’t need or want any testimonials and doesn’t publish his contact info.
He’s helped countless top drivers, before they ever became top drivers. Plus he’s a hell of a musician.
Not sure where your impression comes from?
Have you ever spoken to him?
What he does and the way he does it is unique.
And effective.
He doesn’t need or want any testimonials and doesn’t publish his contact info.
He’s helped countless top drivers, before they ever became top drivers. Plus he’s a hell of a musician.
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Obviously I highly value both of your opinions, and I posted here because I'd like someone to explain if/why I'm wrong in my impression.
Why do I think he's full of it?
Well, first of all, here's a guy who says that he can make nearly any current F1 driver better at their job.
I can list many examples of what sounds like BS to me. First of, he brags about how he is faster than the F1 drivers that show up at his school. I honestly don't think any of those guys are bothered by that, nor are they impressed. It is not surprising to me that someone who has driven countless laps in the same car at the same circuit would be better at it than anyone, even a pro, who is new to both the car and the circuit.
Another example, just off the top of my head...I was watching a Peter Windsor interview with him where he was saying that he drives a street car with a manual because he wants his students to feel the "bump" of the clutch engagement. He stated that he didn't think pro drivers he's coached were "bump sensitive." Really? Any pro driver that I have ever talked to could tell you about every single bump on a track that they are familiar with. Most of them have notebooks filled with notes about bumps, camber changes, etc.
Those are just two examples off the top of my head.
Why do I think he's full of it?
Well, first of all, here's a guy who says that he can make nearly any current F1 driver better at their job.
I can list many examples of what sounds like BS to me. First of, he brags about how he is faster than the F1 drivers that show up at his school. I honestly don't think any of those guys are bothered by that, nor are they impressed. It is not surprising to me that someone who has driven countless laps in the same car at the same circuit would be better at it than anyone, even a pro, who is new to both the car and the circuit.
Another example, just off the top of my head...I was watching a Peter Windsor interview with him where he was saying that he drives a street car with a manual because he wants his students to feel the "bump" of the clutch engagement. He stated that he didn't think pro drivers he's coached were "bump sensitive." Really? Any pro driver that I have ever talked to could tell you about every single bump on a track that they are familiar with. Most of them have notebooks filled with notes about bumps, camber changes, etc.
Those are just two examples off the top of my head.
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Results, not methodology, are all the matters. I assume people hire him because he produces results.
When I hired a professional driver I was a little taken back by his tough teaching style. I was used to PCA cheerleading instructors!
With my pro coach doing something right elicited very little comment because that is what you were supposed to be doing. Doing something wrong caused a verbal smack to the head and then a run-through of how to fix the problem.
When I look at videos from my first season of racing, before I had a coach, I want to cry because of the non-stop mistakes I was making. I still make mistakes but the difference is I am aware and know how to correct them.
Pro coaching is the best upgrade you can spend on your "car".
When I hired a professional driver I was a little taken back by his tough teaching style. I was used to PCA cheerleading instructors!
With my pro coach doing something right elicited very little comment because that is what you were supposed to be doing. Doing something wrong caused a verbal smack to the head and then a run-through of how to fix the problem.
When I look at videos from my first season of racing, before I had a coach, I want to cry because of the non-stop mistakes I was making. I still make mistakes but the difference is I am aware and know how to correct them.
Pro coaching is the best upgrade you can spend on your "car".
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Results, not methodology, are all the matters. I assume people hire him because he produces results.
When I hired a professional driver I was a little taken back by his tough teaching style. I was used to PCA cheerleading instructors!
With my pro coach doing something right elicited very little comment because that is what you were supposed to be doing. Doing something wrong caused a verbal smack to the head and then a run-through of how to fix the problem.
When I look at videos from my first season of racing, before I had a coach, I want to cry because of the non-stop mistakes I was making. I still make mistakes but the difference is I am aware and know how to correct them.
Pro coaching is the best upgrade you can spend on your "car".
When I hired a professional driver I was a little taken back by his tough teaching style. I was used to PCA cheerleading instructors!
With my pro coach doing something right elicited very little comment because that is what you were supposed to be doing. Doing something wrong caused a verbal smack to the head and then a run-through of how to fix the problem.
When I look at videos from my first season of racing, before I had a coach, I want to cry because of the non-stop mistakes I was making. I still make mistakes but the difference is I am aware and know how to correct them.
Pro coaching is the best upgrade you can spend on your "car".
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It seems pretty simple to me, the only opinion about the guy that matters are those that belong to his customers forking over the cash. If they are happy, it really doesn't matter what any poster on RL thinks of him.
-Mike
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I completely agree with all the comments about the value of driving coaches. However, this thread isn't about that, but only about Rob Wilson saying that he has made lots of top-level F1 drivers better at their jobs.
Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence. I get that a lot of F1 drivers have met with him. However, if he has figured out some way of driving a race car faster than anyone else, what is his technique? It should be easy to explain. I don't expect it to be easy to do, but there should be a clear explanation.
Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence. I get that a lot of F1 drivers have met with him. However, if he has figured out some way of driving a race car faster than anyone else, what is his technique? It should be easy to explain. I don't expect it to be easy to do, but there should be a clear explanation.
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I completely agree with all the comments about the value of driving coaches. However, this thread isn't about that, but only about Rob Wilson saying that he has made lots of top-level F1 drivers better at their jobs.
Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence. I get that a lot of F1 drivers have met with him. However, if he has figured out some way of driving a race car faster than anyone else, what is his technique? It should be easy to explain. I don't expect it to be easy to do, but there should be a clear explanation.
Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence. I get that a lot of F1 drivers have met with him. However, if he has figured out some way of driving a race car faster than anyone else, what is his technique? It should be easy to explain. I don't expect it to be easy to do, but there should be a clear explanation.
I'm sure F1 drivers have their options so limited that they just stick with him because it's really all they can afford.
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I completely agree with all the comments about the value of driving coaches. However, this thread isn't about that, but only about Rob Wilson saying that he has made lots of top-level F1 drivers better at their jobs.
Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence. I get that a lot of F1 drivers have met with him. However, if he has figured out some way of driving a race car faster than anyone else, what is his technique? It should be easy to explain. I don't expect it to be easy to do, but there should be a clear explanation.
Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence. I get that a lot of F1 drivers have met with him. However, if he has figured out some way of driving a race car faster than anyone else, what is his technique? It should be easy to explain. I don't expect it to be easy to do, but there should be a clear explanation.
But the recommendations from the top level of drivers in the world are really what counts. We're not talking ******* who are 10 seconds off the pace lauding someone for making them a second faster. There must be something there.