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Old 03-17-2018, 11:51 AM
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in drivers meeting it is generally covered like this

1. Point by, lift and let faster car though
2. If you are faster on the straight but being pushed around the track everywhere else let the faster car go
3.If you are being held up and want a clean lap Pit and do a stop and go
4. If a driver is ignoring Drivers Meeting rules tell the Event organizer - dont engage driver directly
Old 03-17-2018, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by sugarwood
At what point in the video did he give the point by? I never saw it.
I am surprised you are almost keeping up with him in the straights.
Video is poor quality. Point by at 0:45. Drag race at 0:46.



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Old 03-17-2018, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by grrrmonster
Try making a friend. Talk to him, tell him you're peddling as fast as you can.
I would have done a hot pit run through for that session and then ^^^ is the best tact to take after the session. You will either make a new DE buddy or find out he's an a**, but either way you did the right thing.. then show him these.....
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Originally Posted by MarcD147
Go see him after the first session and have a friendly chat
Originally Posted by Frank 993 C4S


^^^^ This or roll through the pits.
Going to speak with another driver when you are calm is always the best choice. In the past I have allowed myself to get worked up over things when a simple conversation would have worked it out. Quite frankly I'm embarrassed looking back on a few situations where I was ready to blow a gasket over what I thought was an intentional act when in fact it was just driver error.

We are all their to have fun - even during races - just talk to the other driver.
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Thanks all - seems consensus is pretty clear:

1) Aside from the point by, no one sees him give me an invitation to pass. Good validation I didn't miss something obvious.
2) No harm in rolling through the pits. Especially true in open passing where misunderstandings of intent could easily happen.
3) Assuming calm heads, have a friendly chat.
4) Give the organizer a heads up.
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It's a trackday, not a race. You have nothing to gain from any sort of confrontation on or off the track. Roll through the pits and enjoy the rest of you day !
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Very experienced in this situation as I've driven my 121hp Mini in advanced/solo run groups for years. Do a drive-through; this gives you room on track and also allows you to alert the pit-out marshal as to what's going on if it persists, especially if the driver is blowing off multiple blue flags. Hopefully this will result in a black flag for the offender. I would speak with the organizers before I confronted the offender--some people really have a problem with leaving their egos at home and just sharing the track and enjoying themselves

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Originally Posted by LuigiVampa
Going to speak with another driver when you are calm is always the best choice. In the past I have allowed myself to get worked up over things when a simple conversation would have worked it out. Quite frankly I'm embarrassed looking back on a few situations where I was ready to blow a gasket over what I thought was an intentional act when in fact it was just driver error.

We are all their to have fun - even during races - just talk to the other driver.
Great post. Great attitude. Especially the last realization...
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To the point of the original post "what are the expectations?"

In open passing there is no requirement to pass on the straight. You pass em when you catch em.

As others have said, the point is to have fun. If you are new to the group and aren't quite comfortable yet, find a freind ( Perhaps even the Corvette guy) talk to them ahead of time and arrange an easy pass. I know it took me awhile to get comfortable with it.

Or pit, that's always a good answer

Edit: if he is not leaving room, then ya talk to the steward, but don't expect him to lift on the straight
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Originally Posted by Kevin Fennell
He lifts when he points by, was this not discussed extensively in the drivers meeting?
Originally Posted by MarcD147
Go see him after the first session and have a friendly chat
Originally Posted by Frank 993 C4S


^^^^ This or roll through the pits.
Agree with all of this.
I have a similar problem with my formula car which turns very fast lap times but peaks at 130 mph on the straights. Most people understand what to do, some don't and never will.
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Originally Posted by ProCoach
Great post. Great attitude. Especially the last realization...
When you get angry it sucks all the fun out of the day. I'm trying to do a better job.

Originally Posted by Coochas
Agree with all of this.
I have a similar problem with my formula car which turns very fast lap times but peaks at 130 mph on the straights. Most people understand what to do, some don't and never will.
We are talking about cars, not go-karts!
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Originally Posted by LuigiVampa
When you get angry it sucks all the fun out of the day. I'm trying to do a better job.



We are talking about cars, not go-karts!
I like my go-kart.
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Originally Posted by Coochas
I like my flame throwing go-kart
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Originally Posted by jscott82
To the point of the original post "what are the expectations?"

In open passing there is no requirement to pass on the straight. You pass em when you catch em.

As others have said, the point is to have fun. If you are new to the group and aren't quite comfortable yet, find a freind ( Perhaps even the Corvette guy) talk to them ahead of time and arrange an easy pass. I know it took me awhile to get comfortable with it.

Or pit, that's always a good answer

Edit: if he is not leaving room, then ya talk to the steward, but don't expect him to lift on the straight
Great points.

I missed the "open passing" session

Then, your only option is Pit, tell starter you want a clean lap.

Idea is have fun, drive smooth and fast, and dont hit anything.

Attitude is important on track day.
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Originally Posted by LuigiVampa
Going to speak with another driver when you are calm is always the best choice. In the past I have allowed myself to get worked up over things when a simple conversation would have worked it out. Quite frankly I'm embarrassed looking back on a few situations where I was ready to blow a gasket over what I thought was an intentional act when in fact it was just driver error.
Oh so that's why you're mad at me, like, all the time. Got it.


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