ProCoach

drive418

^^ +1

Really sucks being the hit-ee.

Plavan

It really is troubling to me. It's VARA. I really don't understand why they would do it. It was a legitimate 13/13- reported to VMC and to other Vintage groups. Driver hit me in the first practice session on the first lap on a new track (Practice Day). Not that big of a deal, just a dumb move on his part, especially on the first lap of a full practice day. Bent a few items on my car, Rt rear wheel and some fiberglass. He came over and apologized. $hit happens- I was over it. We both met with the Chief Driving Instructor, the other Driver took all blame with video proof, yet somehow I got a ding and was put on probation the rest of the weekend along with him... (:/) I plead my case, then finally said OK while shaking my head, but the video shows otherwise, not worth arguing about since I don't drive like an idiot. Fast forward to the Race- the Driver pulled the same move, same corner, hit a Vee and flipped onto the drivers head. The driver sustained neck injuries and had to goto the hospital.

I could care less about my car, but for the same thing to happen in the same corner with driver injury- you should not be able to work that penalty off. We had issues with VARA years ago with preferential treatment and selective enforcement, I though the new crew running it would of had better judgement. This is just wrong in my opinion. I just wanted to see if you guys ever heard of this before.

Again, first lap of practice.....

Driver8

It is not neon green, the correct color is Fresh!!

ProCoach

Hmmm. #33 Super Vee?

Nice picture of you in their galleries for the event: https://www.vararacing.com/photos-by-pls

Steve113

True 13/13 chain gang credit program

linzman

Unless you get hit, have a broken wheel, and it's still a rubout. Guess a broken wheel isn't substantial enough.

Plavan

I just got more clarification. Essentially he is still on a 13/13 with SVRA through July. That is what confused me. You can have a 13/13 with one club and not the other? VARA BOD voted to allow him to race (shortened 1 month) . I guess there was lawyers involved. (If you need to have lawyers involved, maybe you should not be racing....)

"work 4 events to cut down 1 month off his 13/13 , along with him losing his competition license for another 13 months , he is a rookie and is on strict probation , any incident of contact he is banned again this time for 13/13 with no exception along with having to wear rookie strips and attend every ground school and have to voice what he did and how it happened and how not to make the mistake to the group of rookies attending the class."

Then they brought up the VMC errors. The board has brought up the Vintage Motor Sports Council Infractions list and reporting system which is outdated only report to one person and then its updated once a month and sometimes not then, we are trying to get a system that we all report into and shows instantly , but again we have 29 groups and the infractions list is not binding , 13/13 from one club not upheld from another.

ProCoach

That is INSANE.

VARA and SVRA are VMC members. While there is no requirement to follow other club's probation or suspension list, most usually check the list before accepting entries.

The fact that this guy hit not only you (which should have had VARA excuse him, because he was ALREADY on probation from another VMC club) but that he went on to hit someone else causing injury is insane, and shows that VARA has no system nor consistency in administering their own rules, let alone common sense.

LuigiVampa

"Working it off"
"Rubbing it out"
"Receiving end of a nice whack!"

Remind me what this thread is about again?!

RJFabCab

Work off a 13/13? No way... that's crazy.

Let me get this straight... the Vee driver already had an existing 13/13 prior to hitting you in the practice lap? Then he was allowed to continue racing when the serious incident occurred??? If so, that's nuts.

Yes, stuff happens but barring a mechanical... that driver had absolutely no business hitting you on the first practice lap at those speeds.

Severe lack of judgement or severe lack of car control or both.

Frank 993 C4S

Sounds ridiculous. Is there an appeals process for you?

jdistefa

I was thinking the same thing! Wait.....

gt3cup

Peter, unfortunately this is not always the case. I have personal knowledge of quite the opposite.

ProCoach

With more than thirty different historic groups all across the country, there's no common standard, even though many clubs might print similar ones.

Will PM you.