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Old 01-25-2018 | 01:40 PM
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So true.
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Good one. The cognitive bias "Dunning-Kruger Effect" sadly explains so much in business and politics..
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The graph is the physical embodiment of the "this is why I shouldn't be in the green run group" discussion.
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The D-K effect sure describes my journey.
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I'm at conscious incompetent on the track.
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This quote is in the control room at my local track...would be great on a DE t-shirt.

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Love that quote would love to steal it
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Originally Posted by DTMiller
Damned near had coffee coming out of my nose ... Mount Stupid I'm definitely stealing that.

BTW, who do I need to talk to around here to get promoted to the fastest run group?

-Mike
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Funny thread. Thanks...
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Originally Posted by TXE36
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BTW, who do I need to talk to around here to get promoted to the fastest run group?

-Mike
What you do is find the CI and tell him "i drive flat out--that's just how I drive."

I'm stealing Mt Stupid, too. Thanks DM.
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I'm stealing Mt Stupid, too. Thanks DM.
I'm still using "you know what a Ferrari and a Miata have in common" so now we are closer to even...
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What you do is find the CI and tell him "i drive flat out--that's just how I drive."
Like this?
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I can see the humor, I am in the Green Group

There are actually some of us that are developing skills to become safe and skilled drivers, and are going to be progressing from green.
There are some of us who, rely on our instructors and people on RL, to help us make better decisions at every turn, every track hazard, or every driver in front or in back of us that is making bad decisions.

But, to bust b***ls, because some is learning is not cool
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Originally Posted by NYoutftr
I can see the humor, I am in the Green Group

There are actually some of us that are developing skills to become safe and skilled drivers, and are going to be progressing from green.
There are some of us who, rely on our instructors and people on RL, to help us make better decisions at every turn, every track hazard, or every driver in front or in back of us that is making bad decisions.

But, to bust b***ls, because some is learning is not cool
Lighten up Francis.

There is no ball busting going on here with respect to conscientious green students. The jokes about "flat-out", track day comedy, and "this is why I shouldn't be in the green run group" discussion, do not apply to 99%+ of track day students. A big part of learning is one admitting to oneself that they don't know as much as they thought they did. Just about anybody who truely has become an expert in anything can recognize the value in the graph presented by the OP.

I thoroughly enjoy instructing green and blue students and feel fortunate I'm still close enough to my time in green to remember what it felt like. In some ways, I had no idea what world I was stepping into. I also recall gazing from Mount Stupid telling some yellow and white instructors that "I was ready for white" when, in fact, I was nowhere close. Their no bull**** approach didn't make me feel good at the time, but it did show me what I needed to do to progress and I wouldn't be an instructor today without them.

What is funny, is though they are rare, the people track day comedy is based on do exist and humor is one way of dealing with them. That humor is all the more poignant if you've ever had the misfortune of sitting right seat with one of them.

-Mike


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