Too much of an obsession with just the data desensitises you
12-23-2017 | 01:08 PM
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Too much of an obsession with just the data desensitises you
12-23-2017 | 02:16 PM
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Agreed. You saw that, did you? 
Rob Wilson IS a gem. Been a great mentor to many of us who teach and coach. But there is SO MUCH MORE GOOD STUFF in that article than just that premise...
The idea of developing the kinesthetic sense, or "feel of the car at the limit," rather than just "driving to the data" and letting an engineer and coach tell you what you OUGHT to do (based on what they're looking at) is SUPER important.
"0.22 seconds brake rise time could be much better than 0.20 seconds... Keeps the car flatter." LOVE that, and is a much more granular and detailed explanation of what VR and others talk about in the goal of brake application strategies.
I've said before that the first person that told this to me a long time ago was a talent scout and coach for a number of F3/GP2 and more than one F1 driver.
His frustration was that his charges, with whom he had spent SO much time helping them key in to what Rob talks about, were being actively sabotaged by F1 (and lesser formula) race engineers telling them that they weren't any good if they "couldn't make their data match what the sim generated..." He was apoplectic, and rightly so.
Data is a an objective observer, a validator, a dispeller of half-truths manufactured in our mind, themselves a byproduct of our quest for perfection. Nothing more, nothing less...
Rob Wilson IS a gem. Been a great mentor to many of us who teach and coach. But there is SO MUCH MORE GOOD STUFF in that article than just that premise... The idea of developing the kinesthetic sense, or "feel of the car at the limit," rather than just "driving to the data" and letting an engineer and coach tell you what you OUGHT to do (based on what they're looking at) is SUPER important.
"0.22 seconds brake rise time could be much better than 0.20 seconds... Keeps the car flatter." LOVE that, and is a much more granular and detailed explanation of what VR and others talk about in the goal of brake application strategies.
I've said before that the first person that told this to me a long time ago was a talent scout and coach for a number of F3/GP2 and more than one F1 driver.
His frustration was that his charges, with whom he had spent SO much time helping them key in to what Rob talks about, were being actively sabotaged by F1 (and lesser formula) race engineers telling them that they weren't any good if they "couldn't make their data match what the sim generated..." He was apoplectic, and rightly so.
Data is a an objective observer, a validator, a dispeller of half-truths manufactured in our mind, themselves a byproduct of our quest for perfection. Nothing more, nothing less...
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12-23-2017 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MarcD147
Originally Posted by ProCoach
"0.22 seconds brake rise time could be much better than 0.20 seconds... Keeps the car flatter." LOVE that, and is a much more granular and detailed explanation of what VR and others talk about in the goal of brake application strategies.
12-23-2017 | 03:39 PM
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The relevant fundamental concept:
‘When you move your body it’s about transferring weight through to the road surface. And the transfer is in the first five per cent of any input, so you’re trying to remove the join. It’s not input, input – there’s a little curve between to join them.’
It’s the reason he uses a softly sprung, bog stock “saloon” to demonstrate and allow the drivers he works with to refine this technique.
More reinforcement of governing the weight distribution through your hands and your feet.
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12-23-2017 | 03:52 PM
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12-23-2017 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ProCoach
It would be a slightly slower, progressive initial application, followed by as much decel as the platform will accept, with NO pause, or “soft” level, in between.
The relevant fundamental concept:
‘When you move your body it’s about transferring weight through to the road surface. And the transfer is in the first five per cent of any input, so you’re trying to remove the join. It’s not input, input – there’s a little curve between to join them.’
It’s the reason he uses a softly sprung, bog stock “saloon” to demonstrate and allow the drivers he works with to refine this technique.
More reinforcement of governing the weight distribution through your hands and your feet.
The relevant fundamental concept:
‘When you move your body it’s about transferring weight through to the road surface. And the transfer is in the first five per cent of any input, so you’re trying to remove the join. It’s not input, input – there’s a little curve between to join them.’
It’s the reason he uses a softly sprung, bog stock “saloon” to demonstrate and allow the drivers he works with to refine this technique.
More reinforcement of governing the weight distribution through your hands and your feet.
It's all about reducing the drama of weight transfer...
