2004 vs 2005 CGT
01-27-2020, 03:38 PM
#16
Drifting
I think the desire to have an '05 Carrera GT is valid simply for peace of mind, but the discrepancy in prices seen in the market IMO is largely fueled by false narratives about '04 vs. '05.
Buyers should place '04 vs. '05 far down the list of "what to look for" when buying one of these cars, maybe last on the list unless PTS or other '05 cosmetic options are a requirement.
Buyers should place '04 vs. '05 far down the list of "what to look for" when buying one of these cars, maybe last on the list unless PTS or other '05 cosmetic options are a requirement.
I get what you are saying but it's just not true when it comes to collectors and top dollars in or out.
Ask yourself two exact cars - what's the difference worth or Erik feel free to share what you are seeing in price between 04 - 05 on like cars
01-27-2020, 03:54 PM
#17
The rear window is a slightly different material and/or finish on '04 vs. '05. That's all that is known and confirmed.
Porsche updated the clutch software at some point to add / improve the anti-stall feature, but this was retroactively applied to all cars, so is no longer a difference. Other small recalls were issued along the way, again these were applied to all cars eventually.
It has also been said that later cars were delivered with the rear adjustable sway bar set to the medium position rather than the hard position. This could be done to any Carrera GT - I would actually recommend the soft position for all cars.
No difference in corrosion resistance.
Many new cosmetic options added for '05, whereas '04 cars were essentially all uniformly the same barring exterior and interior color choice.
Production numbers:
USA 2004: 304
USA 2005: 340
USA total: 644
Porsche updated the clutch software at some point to add / improve the anti-stall feature, but this was retroactively applied to all cars, so is no longer a difference. Other small recalls were issued along the way, again these were applied to all cars eventually.
It has also been said that later cars were delivered with the rear adjustable sway bar set to the medium position rather than the hard position. This could be done to any Carrera GT - I would actually recommend the soft position for all cars.
No difference in corrosion resistance.
Many new cosmetic options added for '05, whereas '04 cars were essentially all uniformly the same barring exterior and interior color choice.
Production numbers:
USA 2004: 304
USA 2005: 340
USA total: 644
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raclaims (01-29-2020)
01-28-2020, 12:43 PM
#18
01-28-2020, 12:45 PM
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01-28-2020, 12:47 PM
#20
All true information Sterling. I just sold an '05 and bought an '04 and there is no noticeable difference in the actual car at all. Same software, same everything except one has a plexiglass rear window and the other has glass. I guess my '04 is lighter?? haha They are both just as easy to stall in first gear!
Funny, I find both of them just as easy to *not* stall in 1st gear.
01-28-2020, 12:59 PM
#21
Drifting
Sterling, what Nuvolari is saying is that his 2005 CGT with no engine out service history is worth considerably more than a 2004 example with impeccable service history 
01-28-2020, 05:16 PM
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01-28-2020, 06:54 PM
#23
Drifting
Trying to help a guy that is looking for help If you think 50 or 500k matters what my CGT is worth you are taking cheap shots at the wrong man.
I should be there Thursday at McLaren for the Elva if you want to meet me I would love to meet you and we can talk a bit. Looking at moving out there so it's just a matter of time. Here's a pic of my son and I - feel free to introduce yourself.
Last edited by nuvolari612; 01-28-2020 at 08:07 PM.
01-28-2020, 07:08 PM
#24
Drifting
I will ask again as you seemed to miss the question to you or Erik.
Same two CGT's - what's the difference in price between 04 - 05.
Buying or selling or do you feel there is no difference in value.
01-28-2020, 07:42 PM
#25
The difference is $20-$30k max.
3-4% of the value of the car.
Hardly anything to get excited about.
Not to mention the OP's question had nothing to do with price difference between '04 and '05.
01-28-2020, 08:57 PM
#26
Drifting
Exactly this 
The OP asked for the difference between the 2004 and the 2005 model, not the difference in value between the two years. If we are talking about value differences, there is a much bigger delta between colors on the CGT than between model years.
The OP asked for the difference between the 2004 and the 2005 model, not the difference in value between the two years. If we are talking about value differences, there is a much bigger delta between colors on the CGT than between model years.
01-29-2020, 09:22 AM
#27
Rennlist Member
On the “last year” premium thing, I think it depends on the car. If it’s a car that just happened to run across a couple years, I don’t think it tends to matter much (especially as time marches on). If it’s a car that made some reasonable updates at the end of production or it is uber-rare-collector quality, it can make a meaningful difference. I have an 04 cgt and an 08 7.1rs. The 04’s (vs 05) had very little discount and the 08’s have zero premium (vs 07). I could care less if the GT was an 05 and the RS an 07.
back to the OP question, I’d trust Sterling’s knowledge on what is mechanically/cosmetically different. But I do kinda like the blue glass thing
back to the OP question, I’d trust Sterling’s knowledge on what is mechanically/cosmetically different. But I do kinda like the blue glass thing
01-30-2020, 10:25 AM
#28
Drifting
It's worth noting that there has been a consistent difference for anyone buying or selling.
Always plenty of CGT's on the market and anyone to make their own conclusions especially when it comes to paint.
Last edited by nuvolari612; 01-30-2020 at 11:17 AM.
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ocgarza (02-09-2020)
01-30-2020, 01:26 PM
#29
You'll notice in post #14 which started this discussion, I acknowledged the existing market difference when I said: "...the discrepancy in prices seen in the market IMO is largely fueled by..."
As far as placing an actual $ value on the difference between two like cars, unfortunately I don't have enough repeatable market data between cars with equal mileage, color combo, histories, etc. to say confidently. I suspect that very few people short of those holding a crystal ball could do so with complete accuracy.
Like others have said, the difference is small, within a few % points, and less of a factor than most of the other big items to look for on CGT.At the end of the day, they are all great, and like you've said, the market will figure it out - but, it will take time for the market at large to do so using fully correct information vs. any of the established hearsay about '04 vs. '05.
01-31-2020, 10:16 PM
#30
Weren't there a few made in 06?