Jay Leno and the CGT, TLC tonight!
10-28-2005, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by eyeglaskid
I bet NICK blew a load when he saw that!! was probably post coitus for an hour!!
10-28-2005, 09:50 PM
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Actually, if you DO watch the video, you'll see that Jay is not just some daily driver... he did an awesome job of recovering from the skid... even the pro driver was very impressed.
Also, you can't really compare what Rohrl and McCarthy were doing with what Jay was doing... those speeds at Taladega in ANY car can give you problems... it's got nothing to do with the car itself.
Also, you can't really compare what Rohrl and McCarthy were doing with what Jay was doing... those speeds at Taladega in ANY car can give you problems... it's got nothing to do with the car itself.
10-29-2005, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jgrant
Actually, if you DO watch the video, you'll see that Jay is not just some daily driver... he did an awesome job of recovering from the skid... even the pro driver was very impressed.
Also, you can't really compare what Rohrl and McCarthy were doing with what Jay was doing... those speeds at Taladega in ANY car can give you problems... it's got nothing to do with the car itself.
Also, you can't really compare what Rohrl and McCarthy were doing with what Jay was doing... those speeds at Taladega in ANY car can give you problems... it's got nothing to do with the car itself.
10-30-2005, 08:47 AM
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The Pano article stated an amazing fact - the flying lap speed bested the top qualifying speed for the most recent NASCAR race at Talladega by 7 mph!!! That sort of gap over the top qualifier - in a fully sorted, purpose built race car - is simply astonishing.
For Nick - do you think NASCAR drivers ever spin in qualifying in their purpose built hot rods? All the time, buddy. My point is that you are near (at) the edge with these kind of speeds. It is for this reason that I am surprised Porsche let Leno in the car.
For Nick - do you think NASCAR drivers ever spin in qualifying in their purpose built hot rods? All the time, buddy. My point is that you are near (at) the edge with these kind of speeds. It is for this reason that I am surprised Porsche let Leno in the car.
10-30-2005, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by jgrant
You REALLY don't get it, do you?
Steve, I went through curves in a CGT at 125 mph where previously I would have bet my house it was impossible to do at those speeds. It is a great handling car but unfortunately easily unsettled which leads to bad things happening.
10-30-2005, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick
Obviously, you didn't.
Steve, I went through curves in a CGT at 125 mph where previously I would have bet my house it was impossible to do at those speeds. It is a great handling car but unfortunately easily unsettled which leads to bad things happening.
Steve, I went through curves in a CGT at 125 mph where previously I would have bet my house it was impossible to do at those speeds. It is a great handling car but unfortunately easily unsettled which leads to bad things happening.
So W. Rohrl spun it? So what? That was during development, and I bet he spun EVERY car he ever tested. You need to spin it at least once to see where the limits are. That is what he is paid to do. Same with the "Stig". (Which by the way, I watched his Top Gear CGT lap recently, and frankly he was pretty sloppy - I think I could do better).
I spun my CGT at the track. It was very progressive, it did not snap. Jay's spin happened at much higher speeds, and any car is going to be more sensitive at those speeds, partly because of the aerodynamics.
There is nothing inherently flawed in the stability of the CGT. That is a myth. I will agree with Nick that it probably should be sold with some form of PSM for use on the street (not the track) so that average drivers don't get into trouble. I personally have never had a bad moment on the street with my CGT, but I can imagine some new drivers might benefit.
11-07-2005, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve N.
That sort of gap over the top qualifier - in a fully sorted, purpose built race car - is simply astonishing.
11-07-2005, 01:40 PM
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back when NASCAR wasn't running restrictors, the other Donohue in another Porsche beat their qualifying avgs too. in those days, when my friends drove Hemis, SS427s, Boss 302s, & similar, I found those cars to be a bit prone to snap-instability at their limits (or was it ours?).
11-07-2005, 08:40 PM
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I don't know how to do the quote thing - but regarding the restrictor plate comment - part of my amazement is that the CGT, in near stock configuration, would be driveable at speeds well in excess of the NASCAR qualifying speeds, recognizing that these cars (NASCAR) are uniquly engineered to perform on a banked oval, etc.
