Porsche Pulls Plug on CGT
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Porsche Pulls Plug on CGT
No more US CGTs. Those who bought early were smart.
http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=102941
http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=102941
Porsche cutting output of Carrera GT, won't bring final 200-plus cars alotted to U.S. market
AUTOMOTIVE NEWS
Posted Date: 8/10/05
Porsche won't bring in the final 200-plus Carrera GT supercars planned for the United States - and, surprisingly, dealers couldn't be happier.
"I'm thrilled," says Jerry Nelson, owner of Schneider + Nelson Porsche in West Long Branch, N.J. "From the beginning I thought there were too many being built."
Porsche says the $440,000 car won't meet 2006-model requirements for smart airbags, and the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration wouldn't grant a waiver.
"It's a business decision," a Porsche spokesman says. "The cost of engineering the two-stage airbags and recrashing the cars just to make them model-year 2006 cars just doesn't make sense."
Porsche is cutting total output of Carrera GTs to 1,250 units, from 1,500. Most of the 250 dropped units would have gone to the United States, the spokesman says. Since the Carrera GT went into production in January 2004, 396 have been sold in the United States through July.
Dealers say keeping the numbers down will help keep values high.
Nelson says Porsche initially told dealers it would build only 1,000 and charge $399,000. "We let that word get out to our customers, but then the number went up to 1,500 and $440,000," he says.
Many prospects view the car "as an investment," Nelson says, and asked why Porsche was building so many Carrera GTs, when Ferrari usually only makes 400 or so when it has a limited-edition car.
AUTOMOTIVE NEWS
Posted Date: 8/10/05
Porsche won't bring in the final 200-plus Carrera GT supercars planned for the United States - and, surprisingly, dealers couldn't be happier.
"I'm thrilled," says Jerry Nelson, owner of Schneider + Nelson Porsche in West Long Branch, N.J. "From the beginning I thought there were too many being built."
Porsche says the $440,000 car won't meet 2006-model requirements for smart airbags, and the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration wouldn't grant a waiver.
"It's a business decision," a Porsche spokesman says. "The cost of engineering the two-stage airbags and recrashing the cars just to make them model-year 2006 cars just doesn't make sense."
Porsche is cutting total output of Carrera GTs to 1,250 units, from 1,500. Most of the 250 dropped units would have gone to the United States, the spokesman says. Since the Carrera GT went into production in January 2004, 396 have been sold in the United States through July.
Dealers say keeping the numbers down will help keep values high.
Nelson says Porsche initially told dealers it would build only 1,000 and charge $399,000. "We let that word get out to our customers, but then the number went up to 1,500 and $440,000," he says.
Many prospects view the car "as an investment," Nelson says, and asked why Porsche was building so many Carrera GTs, when Ferrari usually only makes 400 or so when it has a limited-edition car.
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Uhh, the reason they aren't making those cars is due to a lack of customers. And my guess is that most of the early customers paid more than astute buyers are paying now.
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And based on the now public (but internally decided/approved a while ago) announcement of the 4 door sedan, work can begin earlier on line conversion at Leipzig.
Not a surprise.
Not a surprise.
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Originally Posted by ltc
And based on the now public (but internally decided/approved a while ago) announcement of the 4 door sedan, work can begin earlier on line conversion at Leipzig.
Not a surprise.
Not a surprise.
The space taken up by CGT production at Leipzig is a truely tiny portion of the plant.
I can't imagine how an end to Carrera GT production a few months early would benefit Panamera production timing at all.
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The article states that 396 have been sold through July. It seems like half of them have been wrecked so far. At the current accident rate there will around 20 left in 10 years. Making them a real collectors item. Man, would I love to one one!!! Make mine black.
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Originally Posted by W8MM
Oh, come on, now.
The space taken up by CGT production at Leipzig is a truely tiny portion of the plant.
I can't imagine how an end to Carrera GT production a few months early would benefit Panamera production timing at all.
The space taken up by CGT production at Leipzig is a truely tiny portion of the plant.
I can't imagine how an end to Carrera GT production a few months early would benefit Panamera production timing at all.
u'll have to be there to tell.
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Originally Posted by pearldrum944
Well, I guess I'll go run out and pick up a couple...."investment opportunity"
2004 Porsche Carrera GT
Silver/Terracotta, All Extras, 3M Protection, New Tires, Excellent Condition, 6,500 Miles, $350,000
(from the new AutoWeek)
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Originally Posted by centerpunch
Maybe not..........
2004 Porsche Carrera GT
Silver/Terracotta, All Extras, 3M Protection, New Tires, Excellent Condition, 6,500 Miles, $350,000
(from the new AutoWeek)
2004 Porsche Carrera GT
Silver/Terracotta, All Extras, 3M Protection, New Tires, Excellent Condition, 6,500 Miles, $350,000
(from the new AutoWeek)
"Excellent condition" represents this car, similar to your example being representative of the CGT market in general.
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Originally Posted by 1958 Convertible D
"Excellent condition" represents this car, similar to your example being representative of the CGT market in general.
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I doubt we will see another supercar from a Porsche in the future( which could help present CGT owners).They "burned" a lot of high end customers and most will not be back for the second bite of the poison apple.
BTW, what dealer in his right mind would think a Porsche, any Porsche, is an investment. Don't they communicate with PNA? Porsche resale values in the US are dismal. Buy and keep them. Otherwise you get a substantial haircut.
BTW, what dealer in his right mind would think a Porsche, any Porsche, is an investment. Don't they communicate with PNA? Porsche resale values in the US are dismal. Buy and keep them. Otherwise you get a substantial haircut.
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Originally Posted by Nick
I doubt we will see another supercar from a Porsche in the future( which could help present CGT owners).They "burned" a lot of high end customers and most will not be back for the second bite of the poison apple.
BTW, what dealer in his right mind would think a Porsche, any Porsche, is an investment. Don't they communicate with PNA? Porsche resale values in the US are dismal. Buy and keep them. Otherwise you get a substantial haircut.
BTW, what dealer in his right mind would think a Porsche, any Porsche, is an investment. Don't they communicate with PNA? Porsche resale values in the US are dismal. Buy and keep them. Otherwise you get a substantial haircut.
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Originally Posted by Nick
BTW, what dealer in his right mind would think a Porsche, any Porsche, is an investment.
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Originally Posted by destaccado
Kinda like those F430's that will have 5,000 miles on them in 3 years, 20k in maintenance bills, and a value of less then half what was originally paid for them thanks to Ferrari dealer's markups- right Nick