Mission X
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I could see it... All of the 918 VIPs I know are still on the fence regarding the Mission X, but seeing how the VIP program has played out for them over the past ~8 years, I could see another VIP program being a deciding factor on the X.
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In fact, since my last post, I spoke to one of them and he specifically said he wouldn't pull the trigger on the Mission X until / unless there's another VIP program that comes with it. Aside from the program, he has no real interest in an all electric Porsche supercar for close to $2 million.
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I do wonder if the Mission X will be in the shadows of the upcoming Ferrari, McLaren and Bugatti hypercars. All will retain ICE engines (hybrids). Has Porsche moved too quickly towards EV propulsion for their halo car? I feel like interest in the Rimac Nevera and Lotus Evija has already faded and nearly forgotten.
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I do wonder if the Mission X will be in the shadows of the upcoming Ferrari, McLaren and Bugatti hypercars. All will retain ICE engines (hybrids). Has Porsche moved too quickly towards EV propulsion for their halo car? I feel like interest in the Rimac Nevera and Lotus Evija has already faded and nearly forgotten.
https://www.motor1.com/news/718973/r...ric-hypercars/
Given Porsche owns a substantial stake in Rimac, and (I'm assuming but could be wrong) are relying on them for battery tech development, this seems to be hitting a dead end, both from the demand side, and development to the point that would allow the Miss X to achieve performance targets.
Maybe I just want it to be dead ...
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Anyone else thinking the Mission X likely to be cancelled?
https://www.motor1.com/news/718973/r...ric-hypercars/
Given Porsche owns a substantial stake in Rimac, and (I'm assuming but could be wrong) are relying on them for battery tech development, this seems to be hitting a dead end, both from the demand side, and development to the point that would allow the Miss X to achieve performance targets.
Maybe I just want it to be dead ...
https://www.motor1.com/news/718973/r...ric-hypercars/
Given Porsche owns a substantial stake in Rimac, and (I'm assuming but could be wrong) are relying on them for battery tech development, this seems to be hitting a dead end, both from the demand side, and development to the point that would allow the Miss X to achieve performance targets.
Maybe I just want it to be dead ...
If it stays an EV, it runs the risk of being shunned by enthusiasts and the hypercar market at a time when both Ferrari and McLaren will be launching new hybrids. The holy trinity 2.0 where one of these cars is not like the others.
If they abandon EV, what does that say about Porsche's deep commitment to an EV future? Mixed messaging of sorts.
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^^^ a lower risk route would be to pivot it to Audi and let them launch it under their brand (but claim engineering credit) and abandon performance benchmarks they've targeted....limit to ~200 units and priced sub-$750k.
It would be a halo car for Audi to sell next gen R8 (all electric presumably) and the rest of their model line which is likely to go all-electric much earlier than Porsche.
Audi can point to the R18 e-Tron as credible historical precedence with further development from the Porsche Mission X concept, and they can even spin a bit of RS2 collaborative lore into the marketing sell.
Porsche (and Audi) would have to subsidize those units at that price-point, but marketing expense for Audi, and sort of marketing expense for Porsche as well, but more of a real-world R&D + market test adoption expense.
I dunno, that was my best idea that a few minutes of thought got me.
Porsche is then free to release their own hybrid if McClaren/Ferrari are successful and use them as performance benchmarks to surpass.
It would be a halo car for Audi to sell next gen R8 (all electric presumably) and the rest of their model line which is likely to go all-electric much earlier than Porsche.
Audi can point to the R18 e-Tron as credible historical precedence with further development from the Porsche Mission X concept, and they can even spin a bit of RS2 collaborative lore into the marketing sell.
Porsche (and Audi) would have to subsidize those units at that price-point, but marketing expense for Audi, and sort of marketing expense for Porsche as well, but more of a real-world R&D + market test adoption expense.
I dunno, that was my best idea that a few minutes of thought got me.
Porsche is then free to release their own hybrid if McClaren/Ferrari are successful and use them as performance benchmarks to surpass.
Last edited by atlrvr; 05-09-2024 at 04:25 PM.