Ferrari Enzo vs Carrera GT
02-29-2004 | 06:09 AM
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I have multiple video clips on the Enzo, as well as Tiff Needel's first drive in one... I don't have official lap times as none have been given for the Enzo, but also have multiple articles on the Enzo, as I have been tracking the "F60" since it's first published rumors
...I'm not sure how the C-GT could match it on the track, though I'm hoping to at least be CLOSLELY proven wrong *hint track test hint*
...I'm not sure how the C-GT could match it on the track, though I'm hoping to at least be CLOSLELY proven wrong *hint track test hint*
02-29-2004 | 01:13 PM
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Originally posted by Greg A
I don't believe they taped a segment for the CGT. I think Clarkson only wrote an article about it.
I have not found a TG or 5th gear Enzo vid yet either.
There is a vid out there starring Walter Rorhl w/the CGT, Enzo & Gallardo at the ring. There is very little driving footage in it unfortunately. It is also in German, I think, and I do not speak German, so I can't tell you what they say.
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I don't believe they taped a segment for the CGT. I think Clarkson only wrote an article about it.
I have not found a TG or 5th gear Enzo vid yet either.
There is a vid out there starring Walter Rorhl w/the CGT, Enzo & Gallardo at the ring. There is very little driving footage in it unfortunately. It is also in German, I think, and I do not speak German, so I can't tell you what they say.
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02-29-2004 | 01:17 PM
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Originally posted by Daytona24
Now, as far as "seeing nothing in the Enzo's design that would make it faster at the 'Ring," that is debatable - over 50 more bhp, more slippery aerodynamics (but with less downforce than the C-GT, I grant you that), and faster shifting... It'll be a good match, I just hope that with all the testing Porsche does at that track that they are able to build the superior machine.
Now, as far as "seeing nothing in the Enzo's design that would make it faster at the 'Ring," that is debatable - over 50 more bhp, more slippery aerodynamics (but with less downforce than the C-GT, I grant you that), and faster shifting... It'll be a good match, I just hope that with all the testing Porsche does at that track that they are able to build the superior machine.
02-29-2004 | 06:52 PM
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brh986,
The vid was done by Auto, Motor & Sport.
Also, here are some ring times for your comparison.
7:40min (CGT) Cold & damp track
7:46min ( GT2 )
7:47min ( GT3 RS ) PZero Corsa
7:50min ( M3 CSL ) Pilot Cup
7:50min (Murcielago)
7:52min (Gallardo)
7:54min ( GT3 )
7:56min ( 360 CS ) PZero Corsa
Times mostly obtained from here: Ring times
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Greg A
The vid was done by Auto, Motor & Sport.
Also, here are some ring times for your comparison.
7:40min (CGT) Cold & damp track
7:46min ( GT2 )
7:47min ( GT3 RS ) PZero Corsa
7:50min ( M3 CSL ) Pilot Cup
7:50min (Murcielago)
7:52min (Gallardo)
7:54min ( GT3 )
7:56min ( 360 CS ) PZero Corsa
Times mostly obtained from here: Ring times
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Greg A
Last edited by Greg A; 02-29-2004 at 07:18 PM.
02-29-2004 | 07:33 PM
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however,
"AutoWeek has learned that Bugatti will try for a world record for production cars later this year by pushing the Veyron to the 252-mph maximum originally quoted by former Bugatti boss Karl-Heinz Neumann back in 2000. "
"AutoWeek has learned that Bugatti will try for a world record for production cars later this year by pushing the Veyron to the 252-mph maximum originally quoted by former Bugatti boss Karl-Heinz Neumann back in 2000. "
02-29-2004 | 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by jason952
however,
"AutoWeek has learned that Bugatti will try for a world record for production cars later this year by pushing the Veyron to the 252-mph maximum originally quoted by former Bugatti boss Karl-Heinz Neumann back in 2000. "
however,
"AutoWeek has learned that Bugatti will try for a world record for production cars later this year by pushing the Veyron to the 252-mph maximum originally quoted by former Bugatti boss Karl-Heinz Neumann back in 2000. "
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02-29-2004 | 08:37 PM
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Maybe to signify that they weren't on racing slicks or something?
I agree with Greg. Top speed isn't the most important factor in a car. If it can go really fast in a straight line, but can't turn, then who cares?
I agree with Greg. Top speed isn't the most important factor in a car. If it can go really fast in a straight line, but can't turn, then who cares?
03-01-2004 | 11:10 AM
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Reinhardt, interesting that you mention the SLR - however I don't think that car would be anywhere close in terms of track performance with the other two in this comparison. It's not nearly as focused a track car as the other two. But would like to see the lap time nonetheless.
Greg
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03-02-2004 | 12:08 AM
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GT magazine printed the Carrera GT's ring lap time as 7'30 with Rohrl driving
I don't know why most people on this thread seem to think the result is a forgone conclusion to the Ferrari. So it has a slight power/weight advantage. Since when was that enough to set the fastest lap time? Porsche seems to have gone to lengths to lower the centre of gravity, lower unsprung weight and to create a very stiff chassis. Details like this can make the difference...
I don't know why most people on this thread seem to think the result is a forgone conclusion to the Ferrari. So it has a slight power/weight advantage. Since when was that enough to set the fastest lap time? Porsche seems to have gone to lengths to lower the centre of gravity, lower unsprung weight and to create a very stiff chassis. Details like this can make the difference...
