RacingBrake

We are building a complete CCM brake system for a Porsche racing team for their 991 Cup cars, converting from factory iron rotors. (ship in two weeks.)

So we like to know if anyone (individual or racing team) here would also be interested in the same set up.

Key feature of this RB-CCB kit.

1. 380/380mm (Same as Cup)
2. Fit under 18" wheels (stock or aftermarket)
3. Calipers made by RacingBrake with open top for easy pad change
4. RB sintered brake pads exclusively made for CCM rotors
5. Rotor rings = Corvette Z06 - Low replacement cost
6. Affordable pricing in purchase and low maintenance cost
7. Quick ship - Order can be shipped in 1-2 weeks

We expect this RB-CCB system not only can save you some 30 lbs on rotor weight, but will also outlast stock iron rotors with PFC calipers.

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RacingBrake

I know this proposed iron to CCB conversion set up seems to be against Porsche's common wisdom (save CCB and replace them to iron), however with our extensive research and development (presented in various tech articles in this forum), testing proto type products/compounds on tracks in different motorsports cars, we realize and believe the value of CCB brakes just like some of you here.

Let's know if you are looking for any improvement or any suggestion on your Cup brake.

Viperbob1

What series would this be used and legal? Can't use in Pirelli or Yoko GT3 Challenge? PCA but would move car to GTA3 from GTC6.

Viperbob1

This isn't against Porsche Wisdom, the Euro Cup series with 997 Cups started with Carbon and US was also to follow suit. Teams went nuts with $5K costs per rotor. So it was back to iron. It was economics not technology that kept Porsche from delivering the cars this way.

RacingBrake

CCB option is not available from OE option for 991 Cup. This is why we were called upon to design and build a complete CCB brake system for them, and for other teams/individual that are allowed to run their Cup brakes outside factory set up/option, or 991 non Cup racers prefer to run 18" wheels w/CCM.

This racing team prefers 991 Turbo S as opposed to Cup for the following reasons:

1. Turbo (vs. NA) - 991 Turbo is favored
2. Run 18" wheel/tire (vs. 20") - Cup is favored
3. All wheels drive - Turbo is favored

Viperbob1

OK so no Pro series will allow it. And only Club Racers can use it if the want to be moved to higher classes. This is Cupcar forum so no one cares about a 991 Turbo based on a street car converted to racing. Your reasoning also shows you have no idea what a 991 Cupcar is vs a street turbo. So that is great you built a 380/380 kit for a customer with a turbo race car. And it seems like it will fit on a Cupcar. You know a Cupcar has manual brakes and no ABS. Have you done any testing with a real Cup and changed brake bias or one of both Master Cylinders to make this work? Cupcars are not street cars that you can just bolt stuff on.

hms08

Viper Bob, Are you sitting on a prickle? I have 2 cup cars and a 996 turbo race and I am always interested in hearing about new products, whether they suit me or not. Be nice. :-)

tcsracing1

I cant see any 991 Cup team wanting these in North America because there is no series i can think of that will allow it.

I can see those with street cars looking to ditch 20" wheels and go down to 18" wheels for the track however. GT4 comes to mind...

Application might work on some PCA club racing cars.

Which team is running a turbo 991S as a race car?

RacingBrake

We are only a brake system builder and we design and build the system based on customer's request by analyzing their existing set up and the area needs improvement.

How a customer would run it (which level, legal or not etc.) is not the focus of our knowledge nor the intention of this thread.

We found a lot of similarity between Turbo and Cup in upright and brake, so we simply present this 380mm CCB brake system as an option for anyone who might be interested, and I must assume that the interested party s/b aware of, and responsible for the legality of this installation/conversion.

uscarrera

HMS08 I think Bob sat on a cucumber not a pickle he is that type of guy
Rich

Glen

Warren,
Great info, and thanks for the additional option.

CRex

The Supercup series used to run PCCBs back in the 997 days so there's techincal merit to what you're saying.

Then with the 991s the teams finally got sick of the horrendous replacement cost and everyone raced on the same PFC cast irons, Cups and Supercups. The dollars and cents just don't make sense this side of factory-backed GTE efforts...

Many of the series featuring cup cars explicitly require the cars to stay spec... what is your client planning to race?

RacingBrake

This will be a custom built car with 991 TurboS and Cup components, and raced about 6 weeks. Not Cup thou.

Since no CCB option is available for 991 Cup nor TurboS, so we were called for to build a CCB brake system including our sintered pads, CCM rotors, calipers with tuned brake bias.

The prime advantage of this kit is able to fit under Motegi 18" wheels & special 18" tire plus the extreme service duty that this CCM brake can provide.

tcsracing1

would love to see pics of this build when it is complete.

It sounds like more of a pikes peak car then a track car.

C.J. Ichiban

Will the brakes withstand a full 24HR race if bedded properly? Would be awesome for a Thunderhill car.