911racer

Hi,

Does a new tub from Porsche come with the roll cage.

Does anyone have a picture of a new tub prior to becoming a car.

Thanks

Ed

early_grayce

All in.

911racer

Great pics.

Thanks

Ed

jrgordonsenior

While you can still buy 997 tubs from Motorsports, the 996 tubs have been unavailabe for 5+ years now. Recently we bought a straight 01' C2 car and stripped it down to the tub , caged it, and built it back up similar to a cup only lighter with lots of CF parts. Dropped in a early cup motor, trans, harness, and ECU and it's faster than any 6 or 7 cup around. Worked out better than expected so if you crash a 6-cup don't dispair, you can rebuild....

tcsracing1

Cup tubs come with full cage from the factory.

16 hours to convert your old Cup to the new Cup tub.

vola!

dan212

Interesting (and disappointing) about the 996 tubs. Its been my understanding that they are a wear item of sorts.

JRGordon - Very cool project you did to make a 996 cup clone. Does this class as PCA legal or just a smoking good car?

jrgordonsenior

Good point about the tubs. Many are now being straightened that would have been trashed several years ago. There's one that was on E-Bay last week that was pretty balled up last year at Miller in the Pirelli Cup series. The owner bought a 2011 cup and raced that the remainder of the year. Somehow this car was salvaged and is currently on the market. Funny, they didn't mention the wreck in their add. Let me add that I don't think it's owned or marketed by the previous owner/driver who crashed it. At least I hope not....

As for PCA I think both. It definitely could run in GTA1, and as I read the rules it's also elgible as a GT2 car (3.6 x 165 x 4.26) = minimum weight of 2531. It weighs about 2400 on fumes so it fits nicely into GT2....

Red9

You used C2 shell and not C4? What was difference in C2 to previous Cup shell?

jrgordonsenior

Only because this car came across our radar with a blown motor at a great price. Motorsports used the C4 allegedly because it had a stiffer frame to accomodate the all wheel drive. I don't know where or how they stiffened the C4 but the C2 is definitely lighter.....

mobonic

how much is a new 997 tub from PMNA?

jrgordonsenior

IIRC about $27k....

Surfbum

/\ Along with a vin tab from a cup tub. And no they wont take a street car vin tab (dont ask me how I know)

JoeMag

...even back in the 993 days. On the line in Germany.

jrgordonsenior

The last 993 GT2 tub ever produced is sitting here in So Cal unused just waiting. The owner has 2- 993 GT2's....

GTgears

I think that 996 Cups are simultaneously on the verge of being collectibles and being worn out. I suspect those two things are going to lead to the retirement of a lot of 996 Cups in the next few years because they are either too tired to race hard or too valuable to race hard. 996 Cup replicas like you talk about are going to become more commonplace and the real ones will be seen mostly at RR and in fewer and fewer numbers in GTC class races in PCA racing. Just my prediction.

There will always be guys who will own some of these cars who will flog it within an inch of it's life for as long at they have the car. But I think a lot of them will get retired in the next 36-48 months. Personally I'd like to grab one before the price on them spikes, which I think it will.