Brake pads comparison
I have not found many discussion here on brake pads comparison. I have used Pagid RS 29 on my street RS and they were fantastic. My Cup car came with PFC 01 front and PFC 97 rear and they worked well. I was told that PFC brake pads are hard on rotors and Endless brake pads is friendlier and works well with Cup. Your thoughts and experience?
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I tried Endless N05U compound and it was flat out amazing!! It require 30-40% less brake pedal force to stop compare with PFC 01 (flat spot another set of tires) and modulation was 300% better than PFC 01. It is pricy. About $1100 for the whole set :(
It is suppose to be rotor friendly and last 50% longer compare with Pagid and PFC. Will give more feedback ... hopefully in 1 year ;) |
Originally Posted by mikymu
(Post 8935038)
I tried Endless N05U compound and it was flat out amazing!! It require 30-40% less brake pedal force to stop compare with PFC 01 (flat spot another set of tires) and modulation was 300% better than PFC 01. It is pricy. About $1100 for the whole set :(
It is suppose to be rotor friendly and last 50% longer compare with Pagid and PFC. Will give more feedback ... hopefully in 1 year ;) I've noticed bite and feel really start to go away from the pads on the Cup (both the factory pads and the RS29's) once they start getting a little old. -mike |
We use Endless now and have been very very very happy with the products reliability as well as durability.
We carry the pads for all Cup cars and road cars - In stock Please email me for more info. |
mikymu, you and I are new to Cups this year. I am hoping for more opinions. I have only used Pagid Yellows, thus no way to render an opinion. At the price of pads, I was hoping to just get a consensus from the forum on which pad and buy a set, however that might be a challenge.
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Sorry no input from me, I have only used Pagid on my cups.
My mechanic is 100% sold on them, we have never tried anything else. |
Originally Posted by Surfbum
(Post 8936095)
Sorry no input from me, I have only used Pagid on my cups.
My mechanic is 100% sold on them, we have never tried anything else. |
Originally Posted by fleadh
(Post 8935236)
Curious-- were you testing fresh/new PFC01 pads against the Endless N05U, or just using the ones that came on the car?
I've noticed bite and feel really start to go away from the pads on the Cup (both the factory pads and the RS29's) once they start getting a little old. -mike
Originally Posted by tedean
(Post 8936052)
mikymu, you and I are new to Cups this year. I am hoping for more opinions. I have only used Pagid Yellows, thus no way to render an opinion. At the price of pads, I was hoping to just get a consensus from the forum on which pad and buy a set, however that might be a challenge.
Originally Posted by Surfbum
(Post 8936095)
Sorry no input from me, I have only used Pagid on my cups.
My mechanic is 100% sold on them, we have never tried anything else.
Originally Posted by tedean
(Post 8936110)
Which flavor Pagid?
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Originally Posted by gmgracing
(Post 8935307)
We use Endless now and have been very very very happy with the products reliability as well as durability.
We carry the pads for all Cup cars and road cars - In stock Please email me for more info. |
On the 7 Cup, the Performance Friction 06 or 08 compound would be a better choice for those who prefer PF pads. The 06 will have a little more torque than the 08, but less than the 01. Both the 06 and 08 are easy to modulate, rotor friendly, and easy to bed in.
Pagid RS29/19 have always been a good choice, with the RS14 as an option for those looking for more torque. But, both PF and Endless are making very good alternatives to Pagid. There's a reason that Porsche Motorsports is also offering PF pads. |
Originally Posted by gmgracing
(Post 8935307)
We use Endless now and have been very very very happy with the products reliability as well as durability.
We carry the pads for all Cup cars and road cars - In stock Please email me for more info. Fabryce or others, for us who have 996 cups which have non adjustable front/rear bias, what combination of compounds would work best to maintain the appropriate bias? I currently use RS29 front (yellow) RS14 rear (black). |
From my experience, the pad thickness really has no factor in the effectiveness of the brake pads, it's all about age and heat cycles. I gain 1 second per lap at Infineon on fresh pads versus the same ones with 3+ heat cycles. This goes for stock pads and RS29's.
When I bought my car it had on a set of Pagid Yellows that only had 1 heat cycle, but had sat on the car for about 9 months. The first weekend I drove it there wasn't enough braking to lockup the tires. Put on a new set of pads the next weekend (yellows) and viola-- massive improvement. -mike |
Originally Posted by fleadh
(Post 8936934)
From my experience, the pad thickness really has no factor in the effectiveness of the brake pads, it's all about age and heat cycles. I gain 1 second per lap at Infineon on fresh pads versus the same ones with 3+ heat cycles. This goes for stock pads and RS29's.
When I bought my car it had on a set of Pagid Yellows that only had 1 heat cycle, but had sat on the car for about 9 months. The first weekend I drove it there wasn't enough braking to lockup the tires. Put on a new set of pads the next weekend (yellows) and viola-- massive improvement. -mike |
I agree with what Mike said about new pads being so much better. It's a shame that, like race tires, you can't use most of the meat on them :(
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