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Old 02-02-2011, 02:35 PM
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"Z06 With the GT3 Patron series last year they went high 2.06's in qualifying..with many between that and 2.09x"


I see, in the Sebring results for 2010, the 997s doing those lap times. Were there any 996s in the series last year? Looks like for 2011 all the cars are 997s.

Looks like a great series.
Old 02-02-2011, 03:25 PM
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The cars below 2:10 were 3.8Liter 2010 cups, better aero, wider, etc.

They didn't break 2:10 with the 3.6 cars in 2009. No 996 cups have run since '08 or so.
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Thanks for the info. Can't imagine choosing the Ferrari Challenge series over Patron. Patron looks to have great car counts.
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Originally Posted by analogmike
The cars below 2:10 were 3.8Liter 2010 cups, better aero, wider, etc.

They didn't break 2:10 with the 3.6 cars in 2009. No 996 cups have run since '08 or so.
A certain Mr. Pumpelly did a 2.0897 in my 997 (3.6) last year at Sebring during the enduro. I did a 2.10 and change during the same race. We still finished 2nd in class though to Carlos Kauffman!

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Old 02-03-2011, 10:19 PM
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Last year in 2010, the fastest Patron times in the 2010 car were in the low 2:07's, as no one got into the 2:06's. Leh Keen did do a 2:06.9 in GTC qualifying with a magical lap that was very impressive.
I assume that with the shorter gears in the Platinum class 2010-2011 cars for this year, the Patron cars will be in the high 2:06's and GTC will be even lower.

Back to Chris' initial post, if you want to run a national, professional type series, the Patron IMSA Cup is much stronger than FC as far as competition goes.


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Old 02-04-2011, 01:23 PM
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"Back to Chris' initial post, if you want to run a national, professional type series, the Patron IMSA Cup is much stronger than FC as far as competition goes."


No comparison, really. In the US, FC is ultra expensive club racing, in a very exclusive club. When I priced the series a few years back, costs were the car plus easily in excess of $20k/weekend before any damage, travel, etc.; I'm guessing the new 458C will cost around $280k before spares. IMO you choose FC if you really, really, want to race a Ferrari in the manufacturer's series. You don't go there looking for top competition.

IMO Patron is much more of a racer's series.

What happened to the OP?
Old 02-04-2011, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by wch
"Back to Chris' initial post, if you want to run a national, professional type series, the Patron IMSA Cup is much stronger than FC as far as competition goes."


No comparison, really. In the US, FC is ultra expensive club racing, in a very exclusive club. When I priced the series a few years back, costs were the car plus easily in excess of $20k/weekend before any damage, travel, etc.; I'm guessing the new 458C will cost around $280k before spares. IMO you choose FC if you really, really, want to race a Ferrari in the manufacturer's series. You don't go there looking for top competition.

IMO Patron is much more of a racer's series.

What happened to the OP?
Do you have the same weekend cost for IMSA Patron series?
Old 02-04-2011, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by James-GMG
Last year in 2010, the fastest Patron times in the 2010 car were in the low 2:07's, as no one got into the 2:06's. Leh Keen did do a 2:06.9 in GTC qualifying with a magical lap that was very impressive.
I assume that with the shorter gears in the Platinum class 2010-2011 cars for this year, the Patron cars will be in the high 2:06's and GTC will be even lower.

Back to Chris' initial post, if you want to run a national, professional type series, the Patron IMSA Cup is much stronger than FC as far as competition goes.


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I thought it was in qualifying but it was in the first testing sesion that Ross Smith did a 2.06.901!

It's pretty easy to spend 20k per weekend racing here, tires $2200 a set, entry fees, fuel, support mechanics, travel, hotels food it adds up quickly.



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