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Old 11-01-2018, 02:30 PM
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What are the specific differences in internal parts between a street 996 GT3 motor and a 996 Cup motor? Are there any interchangeable parts between them and if so, what percentage would that be? I do realize that some 996 Cup parts are NLA and might use 997 parts today but just asking as a general guide.
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Almost no difference. 996 cup is a street engine with different cams (no variable timing),
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Originally Posted by claykos
Almost no difference. 996 cup is a street engine with different cams (no variable timing),
I know neither GT3 has no variocam tappets for lift, but also no sprocket adjuster for the cup?
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Originally Posted by haulinkraut
I know neither GT3 has no variocam tappets for lift, but also no sprocket adjuster for the cup?
correct. Fixed vale timing
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Curious to know what the performance advantage of non variable cams in the cup car brings. Is it purely longevity? I’ve had both 6 cup and 6 GT3 and the power band between the two is significantly different in my experience.
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Originally Posted by spiller
Curious to know what the performance advantage of non variable cams in the cup car brings. Is it purely longevity? I’ve had both 6 cup and 6 GT3 and the power band between the two is significantly different in my experience.
Much of the power band differences are with the cup transmission’s gear ratios versus the street cars.
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Originally Posted by haulinkraut

Much of the power band differences are with the cup transmission’s gear ratios versus the street cars.
My cup feels like it has a narrower band! Road car did have some handy mods however
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A cup motor idles at about 2k rpm and is never intended to run below around 4500-5000 if driven properly. So no need for the variable timing like the street cars which have to idle with the A/C on in traffic.
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What is opening temp for thermostat-- Porsche 996-106-125-54 ???
Is this the same as some other part number? curious.


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My 2001 Cup idled at just under 1,000 rpm. My 2019 Cup idles at 2,000 rpm. All generations are not the same.
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Originally Posted by Ted in Rochester
My 2001 Cup idled at just under 1,000 rpm. My 2019 Cup idles at 2,000 rpm. All generations are not the same.
I've never seen a factory cup car idle under 1800. Maybe you had an aftermarket ECU or tune(?)
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RSR:

Yes, my 2001 ex SuperCup had a factory Motorsport flash that added 10 hp and required 100 octane race gas. Even so, my guess is that this did not effect the idle RPM. I say that because a buddy who had both a 2001 and a 1999 Cup (first year) had his cars idling at about 1000 rpm.

RSR, you raise an interesting question, any Rennlisters out there have Cups, probably earlier generations, that idle around 1000 RPM?

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