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Old 08-20-2017 | 06:45 PM
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Default 991 vs. 997 running costs

Got my VLN license on friday and did my first start on Saturday in the 6h race.

Plan is to race a GT3 CUP next season there and I'm thinking which makes more sense from running costs point of view; 997 or 991.

Only running cost, no crashes etc.
Old 08-20-2017 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Juha G
Got my VLN license on friday and did my first start on Saturday in the 6h race.

Plan is to race a GT3 CUP next season there and I'm thinking which makes more sense from running costs point of view; 997 or 991.

Only running cost, no crashes etc.
991. I loved the 997s. stout, fast, electric, exciting.
but the 991s are easier to drive faster; more forgiving. the motors and trans are less delicate. though the chassis is more delicate. i'm not a fan of the new data systems and always liked the motec.
and with prices coming down on 991s, its probably worth the uptick in initial purchase prices over a 997.

rebuild on transmissions and engines for the 997 will get astronomical in short order, is my guess.
Old 08-22-2017 | 11:37 AM
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Assume you're talking about the 991.1

Engine is the same block as the 997.1 so no difference there--40H rebuild intervals but you will be opening up the engine before then, given you're running 6 hours a clip.

Gearbox wear in the 997 is way worse. Technical guidance is 20H but in reality you're looking at less than that if you don't have a blipper or one that's not well calibrated.
Old 08-22-2017 | 05:27 PM
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I'm selling my 997.1 Cup after recently purchasing a 15 991 Cup and will share my experience that the 997.1 gearbox issues I read about are not at all what I've experienced. I had the gearbox apart twice during it's 55 hours of use and at no point was there an issue. I chose to rebuild at 55 hours because it was better to refresh and upgrade rather than deal with an implosion due to wear. I've used a PMS blipper and always used the clutch for downshifts, zero issues and upgraded 2nd and 3rd gears during the refresh rebuild.

I do wonder if I'll miss the "thrashing" of the shifter when it'll be all about the paddles? Time will tel.l......
Old 08-23-2017 | 09:30 AM
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I'm missing the sequential shifter already. It's really an experience unique to this generation of racers.

I bought my car with a pretty tired box and that decided to split with me (literally) within the first 10 hours of my ownership. Got a near-zero-hour box from Bill Rader and Manthey blipper and that was sweet. But my two home tracks both need a lot of engine braking and my 5th/4th/3rd took the brunt of that burden. Dogs pretty banged up before 20 hours were up... and those were just testing/hard-lapping not race use.

I clutch with every downshift. I reckon it had to do with the calibration of my blipper. The PMNA recommendation of 30-40% wdka may be on the low side...

As to the 991? It won't even let you "steal" a marginal downshift, to nanny you from overrevving the engine. I disdain that system but it is what the series are all moving towards. Accepted, moved on...

One day though, I'd like to get myself back into an early 997 R with the sequential. That physicality, there's no match...
Old 08-23-2017 | 11:07 PM
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997.2 Cup is easier to repair body damage compared to 991.

991.1 Cup has paddle shift which saves tranny life.

If you can get a 997.2 for the right price you can add Paddle shift aftermarket but you would have to see if the series you run would allow the modification.



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