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Old 06-09-2017, 04:02 AM
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Hello, I started looking for an -8-10 Cayenne S but stumbled across a very nice 2006 S. The truck is in great shape, nicely optioned and only 76k miles for around $17k. Im sure price could be a but lower.

Anyway, what Im wondering is what are the biggest differences between the 2- models in terms of tech, features and performance? From reading here and other forums it sounds like the common issues (coolant pipe, cardan shaft, coolant tank, etc) are common to the 955 as well as the 957?
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The 957 has a few more high-tech 'goodies' available as options, but they are essentially the same car.

Engines are different. The pipes on a 955 will go sooner or later and should be replaced before they blow. The 957 has an outlet near the back that may let go (or it may not). The non-turbo 955s are also subject to cylinder scoring. Huge range of opinion on how prevalent it really is, but it's out there. It happens to the 957s, but doesn't seem to be anywhere near as often. More common in colder climates. Personally, I would avoid them, but I live in Wisconsin.

I agree that $17k seems a bit high. But that can depend on records and condition. Any idea what has been done? Pipes, cardan shaft, hatch struts, water pump, ect?
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Go for a turbo of either 955 or 957. While issues can be similar anyway, you gain so much more performance and upgrades for the value - for likely about the same dollar as they all depreciate like rocks. The dash is also bearable on the turbos versus the horrid orange Led look of non-turbos.
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Aside from some minor cosmetic and entertainment system upgrades, the principal changes between the 955 and 957 were in the 4.5L to 4.8L engine.

I've attached a copy of the Technical Service booklet that PAG distributed to the dealership technicians.
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Its a 1-owner but at a dealer so no actual service records. Theres no record if the cardan shaft or coolant pipes have been replaced. Dealer says they did the hatch struts, tires and alignment. How do you check for cylinder scoring, compression test or borescope? I live in Michigan so it would see cold weather use. Sounds like it may be best to look for 957 since I imagine an engine replacement could cost as much as the vehicle did, but this one was somewhat unique.
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That price seems quite high. There was an 06 Cayenne S for sale near me that I checked out and it was in great condition. It had 150,000kms on it and sold for $11,000 Cdn (~$8,200 Usd). And it had all maintenance, carden shaft and other work done to it recently.
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Subjective, but I find 957 GTS/TT to be the best looking Cayennes out there.
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Originally Posted by Rossi
Subjective, but I find 957 GTS/TT to be the best looking Cayennes out there.
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Originally Posted by Petza914
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+2 A bit partial to the GTS over the TT. Essentially the same bodywork but the GTS sits a little lower.
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Well, it sold before I got to see it. So the search goes on...
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$17K is lunacy if it wasn't a TurboS. Punt for the Turbo, way less incidence of cylinder scoring and just as reliable as the normally aspirated trucks
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Originally Posted by ventoGT
$17K is lunacy if it wasn't a TurboS. Punt for the Turbo, way less incidence of cylinder scoring and just as reliable as the normally aspirated trucks
You're not going to find a 957 Turbo S anywhere close to $17k. You might find a high-mileage Turbo closer to that number, but 2nd generation Turbo S cars are still carrying quite a healthy premium, like double that number at best.
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Originally Posted by Petza914
You're not going to find a 957 Turbo S anywhere close to $17k. You might find a high-mileage Turbo closer to that number, but 2nd generation Turbo S cars are still carrying quite a healthy premium, like double that number at best.
100% agree--a 957 TurboS is $30K territory. The OP said 2006 "S", which to me means a run of the mill Cayenne S. MY 2006 is a 955 and if a Turbo S should be right in $17K-$20K territory, the 955 [aka 2006] Turbo $12-18K...not the same for 957. But for a regular Cayenne S, even a 957 Cayenne S, $17K is in the stratosphere.
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Originally Posted by ventoGT
$17K is lunacy if it wasn't a TurboS. Punt for the Turbo, way less incidence of cylinder scoring and just as reliable as the normally aspirated trucks
Clearly not lunacy if it sold that quickly out from under him. Many of us are not stuck on your low ball numbers and are willing to pay thousands above book for a well kept specimen.
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Totally.

About a year ago I paid a decent premium for my '09 Turbo S at just about $50k. Knew I was doing it going in but it was almost the exact spec I wanted for the widebody conversion & color change I was planning and it only had 26,000 miles on it. The only things it didn't have were 4-zone climate control, a back-up camera, and PCCBs. The brakes I'm retrofitting as part of my build.

For as long as I am going to keep the car once completed (probably 10 years or better), that premium was worth it to me for the super low mileage and it being a FL car it's entire life (to avoid rusty fasteners, potentially scored bores, etc), no alcantara, etc. Figured I could either have this, which will be super fast, comfortable, and very unique or some run of them mill newer SUV with annoying start-stop, crappy ride, etc for about the same money - I mean a loaded up Tahoe is in the $60k or better range now.


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