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Old 10-28-2016, 01:27 PM
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I'm wondering if it's worth it to update the maps on my 2012 Cayenne S .... I see Suncoast is selling "the latest 2016 update" on sale for $269.95 ( http://www.suncoastparts.com/product/SKU958PCMU.html ). I recently installed the updated maps on my 2010 C4S Cab (which has PCM 3.0), and it was a pretty good update to account for the intervening 6 years of revised roadways in and around the Chicagoland area (thanks to Comrade Obama for spending my tax $$ on new roads ).

The map update requires a dealer install, so tack on at least a $185 Stealership charge for this, but I'm wondering if there is any additional functionality in this latest update in addition to revised maps .... any thoughts on this ?
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Local dealer near me said 6-8 hours labor for installation. i started laughing and left. Waze is 100x better than the factory nav and also lets you know where the police are hiding.
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Local dealer near me said 6-8 hours labor for installation. i started laughing and left. Waze is 100x better than the factory nav and also lets you know where the police are hiding.

Summits - They really quoted you 6-8 hours of "installation" with a straight face? Not only is that patently untrue, it's borderline criminal! As I recall from my 997.2 update, all they do is install the disc, provide a code to unlock the update, and leave it plugged in until it's done. I had 2 P Dealers here in the Chicago 'burbs quote me roughly the same for installing the update that I bought from Suncoast - 1 hour/$185. Sadly, some Stealerships will try to soak (less-informed) folks for simple stuff like this
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I got quoted a ripoff $900 for the NAV update! How much time does it take to load the maps and hit run on the PIWIS?

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I work in the software/tech field and this issue really hits a nerve with me.

Paying that much money for a map library upgrade is pure robbery. Porsche and the dealers have colluded to bend us over. Maybe if they spent more time on the actual software than locking it down and figuring out how to fleece us on updates/upgrades it might come close to holding a candle to what free smartphone apps could do 5 years ago! LOL
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Summits - They really quoted you 6-8 hours of "installation" with a straight face? Not only is that patently untrue, it's borderline criminal! As I recall from my 997.2 update, all they do is install the disc, provide a code to unlock the update, and leave it plugged in until it's done. I had 2 P Dealers here in the Chicago 'burbs quote me roughly the same for installing the update that I bought from Suncoast - 1 hour/$185. Sadly, some Stealerships will try to soak (less-informed) folks for simple stuff like this
Sure did. Porsche Tysons Corner. I said they just put a CD in and unlock the update right? "Yes but there are multiple steps to unlocking and the time to upload requires the tech to go step by step", or some nonsense like that. "would you like a espresso and a complimentary car wash while it is here?" No- I will spread the news to the forum. Same dealership that wanted $2,400 IIRC for a major service with me supplying parts (which I did at a Indy race shop for $700). Same dealership that when I first started talking to them about the GTS, stating the only option I really wanted that I didn't get was PDCC..."let me check to see if we can install that for you" If anyone doesn't know Tysons Corner, it is in one of the richest areas of the country and they can apparently charge whatever they wish... and the people who don't do research pony up.

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Originally Posted by 7 Summits
Sure did. Porsche Tysons Corner. I said they just put a CD in and unlock the update right? "Yes but there are multiple steps to unlocking and the time to upload requires the tech to go step by step", or some nonsense like that. "would you like a espresso and a complimentary car wash while it is here?" No- I will spread the news to the forum. Same dealership that wanted $2,400 IIRC for a major service with me supplying parts (which I did at a Indy race shop for $700). Same dealership that when I first started talking to them about the GTS, stating the only option I really wanted that I didn't get was PDCC..."let me check to see if we can install that for you" If anyone doesn't know Tysons Corner, it is in one of the richest areas of the country and they can apparently charge whatever they wish... and the people who don't do research pony up.

Ah, good ole Tysons Corner, my old stomping grounds. I bought my first Porsche from them ('08 CTT) and I have to say they were great to deal with (which surprised me given the typical 'Tysons Corner stigma' you mention). Good group of folks there, but yeah, certainly not the cheapest around for service and such by any means.
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Originally Posted by North Shore 911
I'm wondering if it's worth it to update the maps on my 2012 Cayenne S .... I see Suncoast is selling "the latest 2016 update" on sale for $269.95 ( http://www.suncoastparts.com/product/SKU958PCMU.html ). I recently installed the updated maps on my 2010 C4S Cab (which has PCM 3.0), and it was a pretty good update to account for the intervening 6 years of revised roadways in and around the Chicagoland area (thanks to Comrade Obama for spending my tax $$ on new roads ).

The map update requires a dealer install, so tack on at least a $185 Stealership charge for this, but I'm wondering if there is any additional functionality in this latest update in addition to revised maps .... any thoughts on this ?
Just this morning I was at the dealer where I bought my 958 CTT having my new Porsche tinted rear LED tail light assemblies installed. While there I asked them to check if my PCM needed map updates. It did. The price I was quoted from them was 327.53 for the part (CD) and 135.00 install. When will Porsche provide the ability to simply perform a wireless update yourself from home and perhaps charge a reasonable fee for the upgrade?! Maybe never, I dunno.
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They never will if we as consumers keep foolishly paying them to stick one up our collective tailpipes, haha. I can't believe more people are not up in arms about this horsebaggery.
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Someone needs to Hack this so we can update it ourselves.
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↑ What he said!
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My friend has for BMW's updates, if anyone wants his info send me a PM.
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Originally Posted by sjg1138
Someone needs to Hack this so we can update it ourselves.
Yes - where are our Russian friends? Seems they have done most of the hacks to Cayennes..
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Originally Posted by sjg1138
Someone needs to Hack this so we can update it ourselves.
It has already been done.
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Originally Posted by touareg
It has already been done.
For PCM 3.1? Link?


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