Crossing fingers hard that it's an NA, maybe reworked and bored out to over 5.0 with over 500 hp. Now that would be quite special, maybe they will call it the panny R and sell it to only those that bought the 911R for 200k?

 

I am also hoping the GTS will be NA or it will make me select a different option on the new Panamera.

 

An NA V8 panamera seems incredibly unlikely in today's world. It would be such an enthusiast level engine, barely avaialble in any sports car, let alone in a heavy sedan. They're not going to put the 918 engine in it and developing a new one seems improbable: I think the current panamera gts is the last of a breed

 

Has anyone heard about when and if the black rims will be offered on the new model?

 

I need a car to replace my GTI which is at 265,000 km. I may get one of these as I need room on occasion for my clients. Hopefully they have no idea of the cars value.

 

Yes, it seems highly unlikely that Porsche would produce a NA engine for the next PGTS, and there will be a next PGTS. If so, guess I'll just keep my '16 PGTS, but given what has been reported in Panorama, a reliable source based on past experience, there will be one for the next PGTS. Of course, the next PGTS will have to have more power, although maybe not as much torque as the new 4S turbo 6, which to me means around 460-480 bhp. No question about the benefits of turbo charging. My '15 TTS was phenomenal in every respect, but especially acceleration up to about 130 mph, but the grunt and sound of my PGTS everyday is a more connected experience. Anyway, the Porsche folks are just fanatical enough to go through with a limited production NA 8 cylinder for the next PGTS, IMO even if it flies in the face of economics and fleet emission requirements..

 

If recent year offerings for all models are any indication yes, there will be black wheels available as options.

 

It always takes Porsche about a year to roll out the full set of options for new models. Look for the next batch of options to be released in about three months. I'd bet black wheels will be included in that batch.

 

I have ordered mine, it seems like a December delivery but Not only are black wheels not avalable, bu neither are their many choices of wheels. I would love the sport classic wheels in black. Would the Sport classic wheels fit from previous Panameras? Sorry I am not big into wheel tire sizes. But you can get 21's!

 

I would like the long wheelbase version.

 

Spotted the new Panamera in Marin this morning on my ride.

 

Thanks for that video, but it doesn't appear in your video as attractive as it does in the PR pictures (IMO)

 

Riding in the headlands today? I'm about a mile from there.

 

Thanks for the link. Looks like they are all sporting smaller rims which makes them look quite anemic. Need to wait to see in person. Not very impressive in the vid though.

 

Meh, I like those twin five spokes. Think the first white car looked awesome.