Sport Turismo
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From: North Carolina
Sport Turismo
Hi Folks, I have a 2018 4S sport turismo and personally love it. The dealership told me that only about 10% of Panamera sales in the US are sport turismo’s. I am curious if any of our members here in other countries could chime in on how common/popular they are in other parts of the world. The salesman I talked to at the dealership indicated that almost 50% of the Panamera’s sold in Europe are sport turismo’s.
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From: Markham, ON
Probably has to do with the wagon stigma; there are a few STs here in Ontario Canada. The regular sedan is definaltey more popular. This reminds me that I saw an ST with a 'DAD WAGON" or similar license plate a while ago.
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From: N. Europe
Don't know the statistics but the ST is very popular here. Remember Europe is not one country, cultures vary greatly across the continent and generally the "wagon"-style increases in popularity as you go further north. Also, as you go further north in Europe, the cars are larger as it has a different role in the "family" to play generally, as the distances to cover typically are longer.
For me it was not even a discussion, I wanted the ST the first time I saw it. Love the shape.
For me it was not even a discussion, I wanted the ST the first time I saw it. Love the shape.
Burning Brakes
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From: Washington, Ontario, Michigan
The estate it definitely not popular here in North America. They are definitely a lot more popular in the more "outdoorsy" cultural areas like in Washington, Oregon, or Colorado but the SUV is still king. I think much of that is just whats on offer. We had a mk7 Golf AllTrack at our Ontario home for a while and then a V90 (recently sold and very sad) Had an E63 estate until recently when I replaced it with my current Panamera GTS estate. The E63 estate will now officially no longer be sold in the US. Surprises me actually as it's buyer are VERY loyal and I've heard exceptionally affluent on average. Which brings me to the other reason I think we don't get the long roof stuff....cost to consumer. There were a few affordable wagons on offer in recent years but now the cheapest thing I can think of is the V90 cross country, Buick regal, and a Subaru or two. Not exactly a lot of options. I don't think most buyers under AARP age would consider a Buick. Volvo only offers their lifted estate counterparts here now (really shouldn't have sold that v90 dammit) and the Subarus are certainly a lifestyle vehicle. From there you have the heavy hitters like E400/E63, RS6, and the exceptionally expensive Panamera/Taycan. There's choices still there but they don't get lease incentives so for most consumers it's a serious premium.
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From: Findlay OH
Don't know the statistics but the ST is very popular here. Remember Europe is not one country, cultures vary greatly across the continent and generally the "wagon"-style increases in popularity as you go further north. Also, as you go further north in Europe, the cars are larger as it has a different role in the "family" to play generally, as the distances to cover typically are longer.
For me it was not even a discussion, I wanted the ST the first time I saw it. Love the shape.
For me it was not even a discussion, I wanted the ST the first time I saw it. Love the shape.
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From: Markham, ON
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From: Phoenix, AZ
I just joined the forum and happy to say I just bought an ST as well. An ‘18 Turbo with PCCBs, rears steer and the amazing Burmester stereo system. Coming from an E63S, this car is such a different animal and so much fun!
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From: N. Texas
Welcome. Sounds like you got the big angry brother to my 4S.... Congratulations.