Possibly dumb question regarding centre/center caps
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Possibly dumb question regarding centre/center caps
So i'm buying a panamera 4 e-hybrid (2019). I'm buying wheels for the summer set (comes with 19s and winter tires). I'm going aftermarket because it just hurts my soul to pay 2x-3x the price to get OEM stuff.
Anywho! Here are the wheels I want: https://www.1010tires.com/Wheels/RAC/R01/R01B-20913045
my question is do any porsche center caps (including replicas) fit those? i know most say "concave" but does that wholly matter in these circumstances?
I know this may seem more of a general Porsche question, but since mine is Panamera specific, i figured i'd ask here
Thanks!
Anywho! Here are the wheels I want: https://www.1010tires.com/Wheels/RAC/R01/R01B-20913045
my question is do any porsche center caps (including replicas) fit those? i know most say "concave" but does that wholly matter in these circumstances?
I know this may seem more of a general Porsche question, but since mine is Panamera specific, i figured i'd ask here
Thanks!
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So i'm buying a panamera 4 e-hybrid (2019). I'm buying wheels for the summer set (comes with 19s and winter tires). I'm going aftermarket because it just hurts my soul to pay 2x-3x the price to get OEM stuff.
Anywho! Here are the wheels I want: https://www.1010tires.com/Wheels/RAC/R01/R01B-20913045
my question is do any porsche center caps (including replicas) fit those? i know most say "concave" but does that wholly matter in these circumstances?
I know this may seem more of a general Porsche question, but since mine is Panamera specific, i figured i'd ask here
Thanks!
Anywho! Here are the wheels I want: https://www.1010tires.com/Wheels/RAC/R01/R01B-20913045
my question is do any porsche center caps (including replicas) fit those? i know most say "concave" but does that wholly matter in these circumstances?
I know this may seem more of a general Porsche question, but since mine is Panamera specific, i figured i'd ask here
Thanks!
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My guess is that it wouldn't fit. OEM Porsche center caps tend to run larger than most aftermarket wheels, although I'm not sure about newer Porsche in general. They may have gotten smaller. First gen Panameras are approx 75-76mm in diameter, at least with the 20" Turbo wheels. ALSO, according to the link you have provided...double check the bolt pattern. I believe the bolt pattern for a majority of Porsche is 5x130 and center hub should be 71.6mm(Macans are the only ones I think that has 5x112)
Best way is to measure it if you can, and you could possibly ask what the center hole diameter is of the new wheels on the FRONT side.
Make sure it's not the center hub size that they give you(typically that's the 71.6mm), the hub center is where it sits on the brake rotors.
There might be two tiny holes on the Porsche center cap where you can insert some hook to pull it off with. I used a rigid wire and bent it like a "L", paperclips would not be strong enough...you'll need something harder
Best way is to measure it if you can, and you could possibly ask what the center hole diameter is of the new wheels on the FRONT side.
Make sure it's not the center hub size that they give you(typically that's the 71.6mm), the hub center is where it sits on the brake rotors.
There might be two tiny holes on the Porsche center cap where you can insert some hook to pull it off with. I used a rigid wire and bent it like a "L", paperclips would not be strong enough...you'll need something harder
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My guess is that it wouldn't fit. OEM Porsche center caps tend to run larger than most aftermarket wheels, although I'm not sure about newer Porsche in general. They may have gotten smaller. First gen Panameras are approx 75-76mm in diameter, at least with the 20" Turbo wheels. ALSO, according to the link you have provided...double check the bolt pattern. I believe the bolt pattern for a majority of Porsche is 5x130 and center hub should be 71.6mm(Macans are the only ones I think that has 5x112)
Best way is to measure it if you can, and you could possibly ask what the center hole diameter is of the new wheels on the FRONT side.
Make sure it's not the center hub size that they give you(typically that's the 71.6mm), the hub center is where it sits on the brake rotors.
There might be two tiny holes on the Porsche center cap where you can insert some hook to pull it off with. I used a rigid wire and bent it like a "L", paperclips would not be strong enough...you'll need something harder
Best way is to measure it if you can, and you could possibly ask what the center hole diameter is of the new wheels on the FRONT side.
Make sure it's not the center hub size that they give you(typically that's the 71.6mm), the hub center is where it sits on the brake rotors.
There might be two tiny holes on the Porsche center cap where you can insert some hook to pull it off with. I used a rigid wire and bent it like a "L", paperclips would not be strong enough...you'll need something harder
Thank you for the reply.. But i just have a few questions...
I see a lot of people in the forums with aftermarket rims and porsche centre caps... So there must be a fair amount that fit?
And I understand the macan is different (as it shares its pieces with the q5), but I'm getting a panamera
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They have some aftermarket that specifically make wheels with Porsche center caps included.
eBay usually has some, for example...search for Porsche Ruger Mesh wheels
There were ones I really like and some looked like Porsche OEM replicas but larger sizes. They were called AmericanForged wheels, but they began to disappear from eBay since the pandemic. I only see little of them on Facebook Marketplace.
EDIT: actually searching now and seems to be less listings to have Porsche center caps available, not sure why. Still some here and there, best to verify with any wheel shop or the seller.
eBay usually has some, for example...search for Porsche Ruger Mesh wheels
There were ones I really like and some looked like Porsche OEM replicas but larger sizes. They were called AmericanForged wheels, but they began to disappear from eBay since the pandemic. I only see little of them on Facebook Marketplace.
EDIT: actually searching now and seems to be less listings to have Porsche center caps available, not sure why. Still some here and there, best to verify with any wheel shop or the seller.
Last edited by Deezflip; Mar 3, 2022 at 10:12 AM.
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They have some aftermarket that specifically make wheels with Porsche center caps included.
eBay usually has some, for example...search for Porsche Ruger Mesh wheels
There were ones I really like and some looked like Porsche OEM replicas but larger sizes. They were called AmericanForged wheels, but they began to disappear from eBay since the pandemic. I only see little of them on Facebook Marketplace.
EDIT: actually searching now and seems to be less listings to have Porsche center caps available, not sure why. Still some here and there, best to verify with any wheel shop or the seller.
eBay usually has some, for example...search for Porsche Ruger Mesh wheels
There were ones I really like and some looked like Porsche OEM replicas but larger sizes. They were called AmericanForged wheels, but they began to disappear from eBay since the pandemic. I only see little of them on Facebook Marketplace.
EDIT: actually searching now and seems to be less listings to have Porsche center caps available, not sure why. Still some here and there, best to verify with any wheel shop or the seller.
Perfect! Thanks... I'll look around.. Still have a little time before summer!
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and i need rims before april when summer starts..
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I found 0.5*width*25.4 (to convert to mm) + offset
so in my case, OEMs:
front: 0.5*9.5*25.4+71= 191.65mm
rear: 214.05mm
so i have to find rims as close as possible to those numbers? Does anyone know how far off i can be to still clear the brakes and be okay? Those numbers are huge compared to most aftermarket wheels i'm finding...
i'm usually okay paying the "porsche tax" for maintenance, etc...but geeeezzzz...i just wanted a decent pair of rims for summer
they shouldn't even offer crappy rims on Porsches!
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After doing an insane amount of research, I found a formula to calculate the total offset for the rims...i think from this forum.
I found 0.5*width*25.4 (to convert to mm) + offset
so in my case, OEMs:
front: 0.5*9.5*25.4+71= 191.65mm
rear: 214.05mm
so i have to find rims as close as possible to those numbers? Does anyone know how far off i can be to still clear the brakes and be okay? Those numbers are huge compared to most aftermarket wheels i'm finding...
i'm usually okay paying the "porsche tax" for maintenance, etc...but geeeezzzz...i just wanted a decent pair of rims for summer they shouldn't even offer crappy rims on Porsches!
I found 0.5*width*25.4 (to convert to mm) + offset
so in my case, OEMs:
front: 0.5*9.5*25.4+71= 191.65mm
rear: 214.05mm
so i have to find rims as close as possible to those numbers? Does anyone know how far off i can be to still clear the brakes and be okay? Those numbers are huge compared to most aftermarket wheels i'm finding...
i'm usually okay paying the "porsche tax" for maintenance, etc...but geeeezzzz...i just wanted a decent pair of rims for summer
they shouldn't even offer crappy rims on Porsches!The width is in inches which is 9.5in, and the diameter is also in inches which is 20in
Bonus: tire sizes are in mm also, except the diameter which is also in inches
mm divide by 25.4 = inches
0mm offset is exactly and always in the middle of the barrel, whatever the width may be.
Hope this helps
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Nope, the offset is already in mm...so the front is 71mm offset.
The width is in inches which is 9.5in, and the diameter is also in inches which is 20in
Bonus: tire sizes are in mm also, except the diameter which is also in inches
mm divide by 25.4 = inches
0mm offset is exactly and always in the middle of the barrel, whatever the width may be.
Hope this helps
The width is in inches which is 9.5in, and the diameter is also in inches which is 20in
Bonus: tire sizes are in mm also, except the diameter which is also in inches
mm divide by 25.4 = inches
0mm offset is exactly and always in the middle of the barrel, whatever the width may be.
Hope this helps