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Old Jul 29, 2020 | 06:53 PM
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https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...ototype-drive/

Interesting stuff!
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Old Jul 29, 2020 | 09:06 PM
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Saw this article earlier today as well! They dropped the Turbo!..why didn't they give the GTS more power? very interesting
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Old Jul 30, 2020 | 02:01 AM
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Saw this article earlier today as well! They dropped the Turbo!..why didn't they give the GTS more power? very interesting
Autoblog says the GTS gets a 20bhp bump.
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Old Jul 30, 2020 | 05:57 AM
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The picture of the new wheels is one standout; I don't love them but they're different. The Turbo S is a nice upgrade, the gap between there and the GTS implies that there may be a Turbo slotting between down the road? There are other similar articles out now that suggest the GTS might be firmed up relative to the Turbo although I could be reading more into it than is there. I had hoped for a little more; a very light refresh.
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Old Jul 30, 2020 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by pokingaround
Autoblog says the GTS gets a 20bhp bump.
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Sorry I wasn't clear; I meant more than 20bhp..seeing how they dropped the Turbo and the Turbo S is 630bhp.
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Old Jul 30, 2020 | 02:24 PM
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That's what I meant about them possibly holding a slot for a turbo with say 575 hp, it's an large gap for a company that likes their iteration.
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Old Jul 30, 2020 | 02:44 PM
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They finally offer a 4S e hybrid. I wish they offered one when I spec my 4 E hybrid and took delivery in January.

seems it’s mostly tune though because the 4 e hybrid and 4S e hybrid have the same mechanical components.

The greater battery range is nice too.
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Old Jul 30, 2020 | 02:53 PM
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I find it odd that they are going to have a Turbo S and a Turbo S eHybrid. The spec on the Turbo S sounds impressive, but I wonder how the turbo lag will be with the largo turbos. What is great with the ehybrid Turbo S is that there is no turbo lag whatsoever do to the assist. 4s eHybrid sounds like a real sweet spot.

Re the Turbo, if the Turbo S prices under the Turbo S ehybrid is should start in the high $180s or around $190 which doesn’t leave a lot of room for a high spec turbo model with the performance options PDCC, PCCB, 4ws, etc. There may not be enough price gap between a GTS and the non-Hybrid Turbo S to fit in a Turbo.
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Old Jul 30, 2020 | 07:56 PM
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The 4S-H would certainly cull some sales away from a 575 hp Turbo which may be a reason why that gap exists in the line? It does tend to change the product positioning in my mind. I think you had the base and 4 as an entry level, the 4S and hybrid held the middle ground, the turbo and S being the high end with the GTS being neither here nor there in the way that only Porsche can do it. Now in my mind the 4S and Hybrid become more the better of the base models than mid range and the 4S-H becomes the mid range.

As I consider these changes it does seem to me that rumors of the Panamera being discontinued in the near term may have been incorrect. They're reporting great sales of the Hybrid overseas and the car had been up almost everywhere before the virus hit. I'm thinking right now that's a good thing because this may be the first car besides the Corvette I buy two of assuming it sticks around; just keeps getting better as the ownership experience goes on.
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As I've recounted, I bought a Turbo off the lot at a large discount. But, if I were ordering a car today it'd be the 4S-H.
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Wouldn't it be a 4S-H ST?
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Wouldn't it be a 4S-H ST?
Panamera 4S E-hybrid Sport Turismo Executive Heritage 15th Anniversary Gold Edition
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Old Aug 1, 2020 | 11:02 AM
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Panamera 4S E-hybrid Sport Turismo Executive Heritage 15th Anniversary Gold Edition
On the bright side, a silly ridiculously long name like that would ensure one gets their money's worth when opting for the painted model designation!
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Wouldn't it be a 4S-H ST?
INDEED. Oak green with tan or chalk interior...
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Old Aug 2, 2020 | 08:24 PM
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I think I saw the Oak Green somewhere, kind of like BRG right?
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