Taus82

saeyedoc

We bought a '13 GTS recently. You get the most powerful NA engine along with AWD. Mid 50s with CPO, had low 30k miles.

skiracer

I bought a 2010 turbo last year w/ less than 30k miles on it (in excellent condition) for mid-50's and couldn't be happier. They are great cars and several good AWD models from you to choose from depending on your needs. My 996's reliability over 10 years of ownership was instrumental in my decision to move to a Panamera. So far, so good - best of luck w/ your search!

AlecG

I'm in the same position as the OP. I'm tired of the SUV scene. I had a Cayenne S and really liked it but it wasn't particularly enjoyable to drive.

My friend brought his 2018 Panamera 4S by the house yesterday and it is absolutely gorgeous! I don't think the older Panamera's are terrible but the new design (in my opinion) is a huge improvement.

I will be putting a ton of miles on the Panny because it'll be a daily driver and will be used to shuffle the kids around.

I think I will wait for 2017's to come down in price and try to get a clean used example for a decent discount. Hard to justify a new one when I'll be driving it >20,000 miles/year.

I also agree that the GTS variants are the ones to have (strong NA V8) with a terrific soundtrack.

Good luck to the OP...there are no bad choices here.

rsabeebe

with so many variables in a panamera decision, you simply have to do your homework and make sure you understand the nuances of the models and available options. i wound up with a heavily optioned '13 turbo and couldn't be happier. fantastic ride, wonderful interior, and i even wound up with the burmester system, on top of everything else, so the audio is fantastic also. like all porsche purchases, buy the nicest car you can. my previous owner was meticulous and the car reflects that. i literally could not find a flaw and paid a small premium for it. would do it again in a second, as i keep my vehicles the same way, so i know i won't have to 'explain' anything when it comes time to sell. this is my 10th porsche, but my first non-typical porsche.

Taus82

saeyedoc

Our '13 GTS replaced a '12 base model that was totaled in an accident. We bought that one as a CPO also and had no problems at all in the years we owned it.

Paul Rathjen

They are not the cheapest cars for maintenance and repairs but that aren't the worst either. If you already have experience with Porsche, you will be that much better off.

I think the two biggest things are researching the options, and making sure you have a record of all required maintenance completed or getting it done as part of the purchase.

If you do a search there are a lot of buying advice threads.

ciaka

I think it all boils down to how much you are willing to spend.
If you have 100K, you can get a pre owned 2016 or so
If you have 40K, you can get a pre owned 2010, 2011.

So depends. I would say decide on your highest price, then start looking to see what you can get for the money.
I would wait until january, there will be good deals coming up as trades for year end car sales.
If you have your money ready, you can pull the trigger quickly.

As to options, start researching what options Panamera offers. You can then see what each car offers, and if it is a good deal.


Some 2010 models had issue with cam chain tensioner bolts (recall).
So 2011 and later should be good. All major systems pretty much solid.
Regardless of PPI, I would do main maintenance on the car anyway, to ensure you actually have all maintenance done.

Things to check:
- air suspension for leaks
- upper/lower control arms for suspension clunking
- sway bar bushings for suspension squeaking
- any fluid leaks
- plug/coil change
- brake rotors/pads shape
- ext/int condition

Overall, you decide how you feel in it and if you can put up with anything that is not perfect. Good luck.

c4racer

I recently picked up a 2013 S which is last year for the NA V8 outside of the GTS. I prefer this engine format. If I had found the right GTS I would have gone that route. But the car I found was immaculate and had 24K miles and a fresh CPO cert so I grabbed it. No regrets. I love it. Has plenty of power for what this car is for me.
I have faster cars in the stable.

So since these cars are fairly rare may also come down to the car you find.

Lawtyger

martinced

I bought a 2013 Panamera as a daily, low mileage but I drove 15 000 km in 4 months (9 K miles). Got three stuff that broke in 4 months: sunroof console (Porsche asks 1 K + to change that piece), air conditioning compressor and now the wipers (wiper motor died after a long 1 700 km trip under constant heavy rain). Everything was working fine before I bought the car. Long live the CPO / Porsche Approved warranty.

I've got the Porsche Approved warranty now (changed the sunroof console myself before having the Porsche Approved warranty for 50 bucks instead of 1100 EUR).

Next used Panamera I'm buying, I'm buying it with the Porsche Approved warranty directly and I'll always be extending it simply because I don't have the time to fix stuff myself on the cheap (like I did with the sunroof console). Now something breaks (like the wipers motor) and I bring the car to the Porsche dealership and they fix it "for free" (I pay the Porsche Approved warranty yearly ofc but that's like 1.3 K EUR yearly).

iamjpad

I'd say get a warranty no matter what you do... I have had 2 different Techs tell me that the Panamera is the worst when it comes to expensive repairs.
I got a 2011 with only 25K miles on it. I also got a warranty with it at the time but it wasn't from Porsche but it cost like 5K for 4 years.

No joke, I drove the car for just 3 months and the Water pump practically disintegrated, luckily I was one turn from the house, it was winter time and I didn't even realize until I pulled up to the garage and saw steam from the engine bay.
Parked up and 1 hour later all the coolant was on the garage floor.
I was towed to the nearby Dealership who took forever fixing my car because they were arguing with the warranty company over hoses.
Turns out the pump had seized, the belt snapped etc, it was a real mess in there.

The warranty company refused to pay for hoses and Porsche was asking for like $700 for it.
I got so fed up with the whole thing after being told stories by the dealership for 2 weeks, I ponied up for the hoses.
9 months later, car has new issue which I think might be related to the AH08 type issues.
It's with the dealership again, and I'm only waiting to hear what they will try to charge this time.

Car looks great, a beautiful beast but has some serious issue with the length of the front and how low it is.
The front is ridiculously low, you will definitely need to be very careful when pulling into car parks.
I let the lady drive it and she dinged the front bumper while parking. It won't even clear the sidewalk like any other car.
Biggest PITA for me whenever I'm parking the car is that.

Paul Rathjen

You have to weigh the cost of the warranty vs. the cost of repairs.

Do you have $10,000 or more sitting in an account to pay for rainy day issues? If you do, I wouldn't bother with a warranty because your chances are slim that you're gong to have $5000 in repairs in 3-4 years of ownership. I personally just like the peace of mind, and I typically don't keep my cars through the warrant and get most of it back after trading it in. So far this has worked for me. Everything is a risk with cars, and its a bigger risk the most expensive the car is. I have at least been surprised on the parts availability, as well as the fact that unlike true exotics, you can actually work on a Panamera yourself for the most part. That take a lot of the potential costs of ownership down. The maintenance on the Panamera is actually less frequent than other German cars as well. Its certainly way less often and less expensive than my RS7 was believe it or not. So while the initial cost comes at a premium, I think the maintenance and repairs are not inflated over other German and high end brands.

ciaka

I had CTT and loved it. Wanted to sell to get PTT, but ended up buying PTT before selling the CTT.
Then wife wanted to keep the CTT, and it is how I arrived at having both PTT and CTT.
Transitioning from SUV to PTT, I can say, love the performance and agility especially with PDCC, sometimes wish PTT not as low, for maybe 3 seconds, and then laugh it off.
Still take CTT for many rides, but love the PTT.