RDS928S

Plus u can install lowering links to further bring down the ride height but still have magic carpet ride with 21 or 22 inch wheels.

Thats what I did.

Andial

Lives up to the Jersey stereotype.

john rock

Must be why I like the look, was brought up in West Orange and moved to Roxbury for high school. West Port CT to north of Dallas Texas loosing my Jersey style. Would not have the guts to do the changes, but really appreciate them this looks spectacular.

lexhair

My previous F07 had both rear bags fail under warranty (one with a cannon shot sound). Our 2008 GL320CDI went through airbags faster than I go through socks.

NJS_04_996

So I guess PASM now comes standard with the air suspension, while with the older models the air suspension was an additional option added to PASM? I was initially told my 2012 had air suspension (a non Porsche saleman) but I guess if I don't have the level control button, I don't have it?

cometguy

My understanding is that if you don't have a lift button, there is no air suspension. When I looked for a CPO Panamera, it was a priority for me; I didn't consider cars without the air suspension.
My understanding also is that more of the new-generation (2018) Panameras have air suspension standard, but not all of them do. And, no, PASM doesn't mean it has air suspension.

Kevin1017

Thank you guys! I test drove a 4E hybrid with 20" wheels and a 4 with 21" wheels but NO air suspension. Surprisingly, the driving experience with the Panamera 4 was better, don't know if it was due to the jerky feeling on the hybrid at low speed, my dealer told me that all 4E hybrids had this problem, if this is really the case, I may just go for a Panamera 4.

Also, one question: the dealer actually showed me the lift button in the car, but that Panamera 4 only comes with the standard PASM (NO air suspension), so standard PASM also has that height-adjust function now?

ajriches01

eHybrid after a few miles is not jerky at low speeds. Occasionally when braking relatively heavily when the PDK is shifting 2 to 3 but otherwise it's a dream. Surely the economy, power, torque etc make it a more desirable package to a 4?

Kevin1017

Thank you for sharing AJ, I guess I will test drive both of them again this weekend to make a decision, because yesterday's experience with the eHybrid was really not good, maybe I was braking too heave every time when it came to a stop?

Aviaros21

Ah yes that's what it is. The 4's have PASM standard (with Lift function) but not Air suspension as that is the option.
Also the hybrid's tax rebate/incentive may be of worth to you perhaps?

SaratogaLefty

Not sure why you had the jerky experience but so far I haven't seen it in mine after 700 miles. Car drives like a dream; very smooth and extremely stable. Nothing against the 4 but if you are going to get the air suspension I can't figure out why anyone in the US would not get the 4 E-Hybrid for essentially the same money and pick up another 132HP plus the ability to drive in pure electric mode a lot of the time.

K777

5250 miles no jerks ?
and 38000 in my old SEH no jerks ?

I would definitely have another test drive, doesn't sound right.

Andial

Wart on dash.

Kevin1017

Hi guys, I did some research on internet about the braking system on eHybrid, and I think I got the reasons behind that jerking feeling got:

"It does that in most situations, but when the car is about to come to a stop – say, the last ten feet or so – you get nonlinear pedal force, either it goes soft when you don't expect it to or it briefly firms up, while the brake response remains linear. Even with these faults, the system still beats most hybrid brakes. And we have some hope that the E-Hybrid's brakes will improve, because 918 prototypes exhibited similar pedal feel that was smoothed out with subsequent updates. Luckily there's the available Traffic Jam Assist to modulate the brakes in stop-and-go traffic without your feet getting involved, and it does so with no jerkiness at all."

"On the test car, which we were told was a full production model, the brakes were inconsistent at best. One minute you had a soft pedal, then next minute a brick. On top of that when the brakes did engage, they were very abrupt. These traits mainly showed up in low speed stop-and-go traffic, making driving through downtown Cape Town a lesson in futility."

Some people were saying adding the PCCB option or letting ACC to do stop-and-go will help to alleviate the issue, any thoughts?

SaratogaLefty

Your quote is from a preliminary review in either Road and Track or Car and Driver, I can't remember which one. It was written around March, 2017. As a direct result of that article, Porsche held up release of the E-Hybrids in Europe and the early models were delayed about two months. Porsche installed firmware and software updates to correct that problem around May, 2017. The 2017 European models were then released and the pedal problem was eliminated. Obviously the 2018 models also do not have that problem either. Not sure what you experienced or why, but I have not seen anything like it on my car.