971 4 vs 4S - Help!
Guys, New to the forum, but was hoping to get some color on the differences between the Panemera 4 and 4S. a typical dealer spec'd 4 has an MSRP of $100-105k, while the 4S seems to be in and around $120-130k. As a daily driver, is the extra power worth it? Is it noticeable? I know in the 970 - the difference between the two was significant, but was curious to know whether that gap had tightened. Thanks. |
Didn't test drive 4S but got the 4 recently which is pretty decent for a DD. I wish it had a bit more power like around 360-380 for a 105K car. 4S is a second faster from 0-60 which I'm guessing is close to 991 4s in pickup that I can relate to! If you can afford then go for 4S or the E-hybrid. Good luck!
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The problem with the 4s is that used turbo pricing is slipping below 140k. I'd suggest asking about insurance rates. Sometimes asking first may save thousands per year and may dictate decision.
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I have a 17 4S and had a base 971 for about 4 days as a loaner. Big diffence in power. The base model drives good. The 4S drives phenomenal. |
Originally Posted by VINK
(Post 14764326)
Didn't test drive 4S but got the 4 recently which is pretty decent for a DD. I wish it had a bit more power like around 360-380 for a 105K car. 4S is a second faster from 0-60 which I'm guessing is close to 991 4s in pickup that I can relate to! If you can afford then go for 4S or the E-hybrid. Good luck!
7 Months later... I just bought a "4" today, amazing car, test drove a bunch others but none had the same feel of a Porsche. Basically a base 4 (metallic black) with 21 wheels + Premium Package Plus. |
Originally Posted by GFK997
(Post 14764225)
As a daily driver, is the extra power worth it? Is it noticeable?. We just bought a 2018 4 for my wife. She does not need any more hp than that. Further, it's not just the extra almost $14K for the S, but if you are going to use that hp, you should get air suspension and rear axle steering, and that adds several more thousand to the msrp. |
Originally Posted by GFK997
(Post 14764225)
Guys, New to the forum, but was hoping to get some color on the differences between the Panemera 4 and 4S. a typical dealer spec'd 4 has an MSRP of $100-105k, while the 4S seems to be in and around $120-130k. As a daily driver, is the extra power worth it? Is it noticeable? I know in the 970 - the difference between the two was significant, but was curious to know whether that gap had tightened. Thanks. |
+1. I am still waiting like Saratoga. My reasoning was the same. The 4E comes with sport chromo and air suspension as well. Even after a long wait because of EPA hold, I would still do the 4E.
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Originally Posted by s-works
(Post 14801450)
+1. I am still waiting like Saratoga. My reasoning was the same. The 4E comes with sport chromo and air suspension as well. Even after a long wait because of EPA hold, I would still do the 4E.
You are correct; I forgot about the air suspension and the Sport Chrono packages being standard on the E-Hybrid. The base price on the Panamera 4 in the US is $89400 and when you add in the air suspension ($2190) and the Sport Chrono ($2270) the total comes up to $94060. The base price on the E-Hybrid is $99600 but after the tax credit of $6670 it becomes $92930, so you are getting an extra 132 HP and saving $130. Seems like a no brainer to me. |
But, what about the extra 700 Lbs? That is similar to having three large passengers in each of the seats. |
Originally Posted by MM3.9GT3
(Post 14802759)
But, what about the extra 700 Lbs? That is similar to having three large passengers in each of the seats. Pana 4 = 4243 Pana EH= 4786 Both, lbs, unladden DIN |
Originally Posted by MM3.9GT3
(Post 14802759)
But, what about the extra 700 Lbs? That is similar to having three large passengers in each of the seats. |
Saratoga - hope you are well bud!
Do you have any links to those reviews? Have always thought it felt that quick. Having taken an eHybrid and 4S round the Porsche experience centre I cannot say I noticed a difference in terms of weight - neither is a 911 but both are very comfortable, fast and fun enough. |
Does anyone have a 4E is the USA or are they still stuck at the port? |
My dealer is saying that a fire at the engine plant is causing a shortage of the 4S? |
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