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From: Bogota / Navarre Beach
Even though RL is Porsche centric, most of the folks here just love cars! So IMO: it is OK to like the "new" Ford Mustang and everything that it represents.
My first new car coming out of college was a 1986 Mustang SVO (100% loan - the American way! And the Ford dealer could not give that car away versus the GT).
My first Porsche was a new 1993 RS America (again borrowed money and Porsche could not give them away)!
Fast forward 30 years older, I own 6 911's and 2 'Stangs. My incoming GT350R checks the box for me. I have no interest in anything else, just nostalgic and narrow minded...
All the best...
My first new car coming out of college was a 1986 Mustang SVO (100% loan - the American way! And the Ford dealer could not give that car away versus the GT).
My first Porsche was a new 1993 RS America (again borrowed money and Porsche could not give them away)!
Fast forward 30 years older, I own 6 911's and 2 'Stangs. My incoming GT350R checks the box for me. I have no interest in anything else, just nostalgic and narrow minded...
All the best...
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From: Washington State
I think we are all losing sight of how much 'sound' - natural sound - plays into our enjoyment of these kinds of cars.
The Viper's V10 sounds like ***. There, I said it. We all know it, we just don't say it often enough. How Dodge can make such an incredible machine as the ACR, and yet somehow, someway that engine still doesn't sound as good as a run 'o the mill $500 small block Chevy is anyone's guess...
But then again, you can't argue with what the ACR can do.
The V10 in a Huracan or R8 sounds like a symphony in comparison. Is it the 4 valves per cylinder? I don't know.
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The Viper's V10 sounds like ***. There, I said it. We all know it, we just don't say it often enough. How Dodge can make such an incredible machine as the ACR, and yet somehow, someway that engine still doesn't sound as good as a run 'o the mill $500 small block Chevy is anyone's guess...
But then again, you can't argue with what the ACR can do.
The V10 in a Huracan or R8 sounds like a symphony in comparison. Is it the 4 valves per cylinder? I don't know.
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From: Washington State
More frontal area on the Camaro than the vette. Probably a better platform for that motor.
The way these American car are ringing up the numbers in think I would be more content with a low mileage used 991.1 carrera s for roughly the same figure. Much more car for the money and an overall better performer when handling, feel and ergonomics are all factored in.
The way these American car are ringing up the numbers in think I would be more content with a low mileage used 991.1 carrera s for roughly the same figure. Much more car for the money and an overall better performer when handling, feel and ergonomics are all factored in.
Yeah, I was kind of hoping Ford would would begin to tease a GT500 just to wet our appetites, and help relieve the pressure for those of us who will never get the chance of buying a GT350R.
You sound pretty confident that the LT4 will survive track duty in the Camaro more so than it is currently in the ZO6...
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From: Central New Jersey
IHave been offered GT350s at MSRP. Not interested anymore. With a 4 to 5 year production run planned the ADMs won't last forever. The car was just launched in 2016 and it's still 1st Q 2016.
Same nonsense with every other "gotta have it car" in the past.
Same nonsense with every other "gotta have it car" in the past.
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BTW, the car was launched in 2015.
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If you want to call launching 100 cars an official launch well then I guess so.
I can't recall specifically where I read about the four-year production run but I did read it. You can also check out track Mustangs online. A lot of knowledgeable guys regarding the car on that formum.
I doubt Ford would've spent as much money and time and effort in developing the flat plane crank for a two-year production run only
I can't recall specifically where I read about the four-year production run but I did read it. You can also check out track Mustangs online. A lot of knowledgeable guys regarding the car on that formum.
I doubt Ford would've spent as much money and time and effort in developing the flat plane crank for a two-year production run only
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In regards to ACR noises- I usually can't hear the engine over the screams of the passengers...haha.
The 350/350R sounds unreal. But- lets face it no car in this conversation is really perfect- viper is too hard on tires, doesn't sound great. GT4 understeers a bit, doesn't have the super HP, 350 is a little heavy or hard to obtain without ADM.
They are all REALLY good. And different. And they all require real driving skill to get the max.
The 350/350R sounds unreal. But- lets face it no car in this conversation is really perfect- viper is too hard on tires, doesn't sound great. GT4 understeers a bit, doesn't have the super HP, 350 is a little heavy or hard to obtain without ADM.
They are all REALLY good. And different. And they all require real driving skill to get the max.
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In regards to ACR noises- I usually can't hear the engine over the screams of the passengers...haha.
The 350/350R sounds unreal. But- lets face it no car in this conversation is really perfect- viper is too hard on tires, doesn't sound great. GT4 understeers a bit, doesn't have the super HP, 350 is a little heavy or hard to obtain without ADM.
They are all REALLY good. And different. And they all require real driving skill to get the max.
The 350/350R sounds unreal. But- lets face it no car in this conversation is really perfect- viper is too hard on tires, doesn't sound great. GT4 understeers a bit, doesn't have the super HP, 350 is a little heavy or hard to obtain without ADM.
They are all REALLY good. And different. And they all require real driving skill to get the max.
Great post!
So...what we are all really hoping for is for Porsche to make a Cayman GT4 RS with all the special parts from the future Limited Edition GT3 RS: 4.4L 550hp, PDK-R, RWS, etc., etc...
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If you want to call launching 100 cars an official launch well then I guess so.
I can't recall specifically where I read about the four-year production run but I did read it. You can also check out track Mustangs online. A lot of knowledgeable guys regarding the car on that formum.
I doubt Ford would've spent as much money and time and effort in developing the flat plane crank for a two-year production run only
I can't recall specifically where I read about the four-year production run but I did read it. You can also check out track Mustangs online. A lot of knowledgeable guys regarding the car on that formum.
I doubt Ford would've spent as much money and time and effort in developing the flat plane crank for a two-year production run only
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From: Scottsdale,AZ
In regards to ACR noises- I usually can't hear the engine over the screams of the passengers...haha.
The 350/350R sounds unreal. But- lets face it no car in this conversation is really perfect- viper is too hard on tires, doesn't sound great. GT4 understeers a bit, doesn't have the super HP, 350 is a little heavy or hard to obtain without ADM.
They are all REALLY good. And different. And they all require real driving skill to get the max.
The 350/350R sounds unreal. But- lets face it no car in this conversation is really perfect- viper is too hard on tires, doesn't sound great. GT4 understeers a bit, doesn't have the super HP, 350 is a little heavy or hard to obtain without ADM.
They are all REALLY good. And different. And they all require real driving skill to get the max.
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Where do I sign? 😉😉