Advice request - wagon, SUV???
01-06-2012, 12:40 PM
#76
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01-06-2012, 02:05 PM
#77
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I suppose it does. Gotta say, though, that I don't see why someone would buy a 550ix GT instead of a Cayenne S, for example. Very comparable performance and efficiency, although with a 26 gallon tank (compared to 18.8 on the BMW) the Cayenne has much better range, not to mention more cargo room, plus the ability to go off pavement and tow 7700 pounds. The Cayenne is actually shorter than the 550ix GT, weighs almost 400 pounds less, and IMO is quite good looking, unlike the BMW. And the Cayenne S lists at $65K and the BMW at $68.3K. It just depends on what floats your boat, I guess. 
01-06-2012, 02:09 PM
#78
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I suppose it does. Gotta say, though, that I don't see why someone would buy a 550ix GT instead of a Cayenne S, for example. Very comparable performance and efficiency, although with a 26 gallon tank (compared to 18.8 on the BMW) the Cayenne has much better range, not to mention more cargo room, plus the ability to go off pavement and tow 7700 pounds. The Cayenne is actually shorter than the 550ix GT, weighs almost 400 pounds less, and IMO is quite good looking, unlike the BMW. And the Cayenne S lists at $65K and the BMW at $68.3K. It just depends on what floats your boat, I guess.
and ...
honestly ...
they are both about as equally butt-fugly! you would need to
and 
a lot to take either home from the prom!
01-06-2012, 02:53 PM
#79
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And not only is it selling in smaller numbers than the 5-series Touring, many of the (few) sales it is generating were cannibalized from the more profitable but similarly roomy 7-series.
01-06-2012, 02:54 PM
#80
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The GT is all about space. Huge amounts of headroom. Enormous, literally limo-like rear seat. Large trunk area as well. But just about the ugliest thing on the road.
And not only is it selling in smaller numbers than the 5-series Touring, many of the (few) sales it is generating were cannibalized from the more profitable but similarly roomy 7-series.
And not only is it selling in smaller numbers than the 5-series Touring, many of the (few) sales it is generating were cannibalized from the more profitable but similarly roomy 7-series.
there is no way I can get 2 or 3 60lb+ Aussies in 5GT ...
01-06-2012, 02:55 PM
#81
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01-06-2012, 02:58 PM
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01-06-2012, 03:21 PM
#83
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01-06-2012, 03:23 PM
#84
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different beholder... but then I think the Panamera is also fugly, and the new 991 has inherited some of its looks from both those platforms ... why is there no :vomit: emoticon?
but then I think the Panamera is also fugly, and the new 991 has inherited some of its looks from both those platforms ... why is there no :vomit: emoticon?
01-06-2012, 03:44 PM
#85
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I suppose it does. Gotta say, though, that I don't see why someone would buy a 550ix GT instead of a Cayenne S, for example. Very comparable performance and efficiency, although with a 26 gallon tank (compared to 18.8 on the BMW) the Cayenne has much better range, not to mention more cargo room, plus the ability to go off pavement and tow 7700 pounds. The Cayenne is actually shorter than the 550ix GT, weighs almost 400 pounds less, and IMO is quite good looking, unlike the BMW. And the Cayenne S lists at $65K and the BMW at $68.3K. It just depends on what floats your boat, I guess.
Also on a side note the Cayenne diesel is coming to the US and should fit price wise between the 6 & the 8, now that sounds cool, I love me some torques. Also the word is that the Cayenne is built in the same factory as the Panamera and the Panamera offers PtS so how long before we can order a Cayenne in PtS Gt3 RS Orange?
01-06-2012, 03:47 PM
#86
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Agree I'd take a Cayenne over a GT, once you load up a GT you may as well get a 7.
Also on a side note the Cayenne diesel is coming to the US and should fit price wise between the 6 & the 8, now that sounds cool, I love me some torques. Also the word is that the Cayenne is built in the same factory as the Panamera and the Panamera offers PtS so how long before we can order a Cayenne in PtS Gt3 RS Orange?
Also on a side note the Cayenne diesel is coming to the US and should fit price wise between the 6 & the 8, now that sounds cool, I love me some torques. Also the word is that the Cayenne is built in the same factory as the Panamera and the Panamera offers PtS so how long before we can order a Cayenne in PtS Gt3 RS Orange?
01-06-2012, 08:57 PM
#88
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01-12-2012, 06:22 PM
#89
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OK, I test drove the X5 xDrive50i (w/Sport Activity pkg, but no Adaptive Drive) and an X5M last week ...
I am not a fan of the suspension on the xDrive50i feels like the rebound is soft, so the car tends to "float" somewhat, I also dont like the STEPTRONIC transmission, its a bit "jerky" initially as you step on the gas, apart from that, its typical BMW ... the 4.4L V8 TT engine is superb and the car overall performs a lot better than you would imagine for such a hunk'o tin...
The X5M was a hoot, suspension and transmission are much better, you still know that you are crusing around in a lot of tin, and you feel "high up" but if your control inputs are smooth you can extract a lot from the handling of the SAV... pressing the "M" button and engaging the "sport" mode, along with M-Dynamic suspension also is a lot of fun ...
having said that, I am not sure that the X5M actually ignites its fuel, I secretly think its a gas ion drive that simply accelerates raw fuel out the back ... empirical evidence of this propulsion system is derived from visual monitoring of the fuel gauge while accelerating with M mode engaged!
I am not a fan of the suspension on the xDrive50i feels like the rebound is soft, so the car tends to "float" somewhat, I also dont like the STEPTRONIC transmission, its a bit "jerky" initially as you step on the gas, apart from that, its typical BMW ... the 4.4L V8 TT engine is superb and the car overall performs a lot better than you would imagine for such a hunk'o tin...
The X5M was a hoot, suspension and transmission are much better, you still know that you are crusing around in a lot of tin, and you feel "high up" but if your control inputs are smooth you can extract a lot from the handling of the SAV... pressing the "M" button and engaging the "sport" mode, along with M-Dynamic suspension also is a lot of fun ...
having said that, I am not sure that the X5M actually ignites its fuel, I secretly think its a gas ion drive that simply accelerates raw fuel out the back ... empirical evidence of this propulsion system is derived from visual monitoring of the fuel gauge while accelerating with M mode engaged!
