New Z06!
Three Wheelin'
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There have been issues with the dual clutch transmission that's been introduced in the C8 (lots of low mileage failures and replacements needed). GM finally took note
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/c...ay-173055.html
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/c...ay-173055.html
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I am dubious that the Z06 flat plane crank engine is going to be durable because of the well-known vibration problem associated with this design.
There been many GT350 engine failures.
The Ferrari 360 had a cracked exhaust manifold problem which I believe has been solved.
Finally and importantly, the larger the engine displacement, of course the worse the vibration problem is with a flat plane crank design. The Z06 is a 5.5, the GT 350 was a 5.2, and the largest Ferrari V8 I believe was a 4.5.
A C8R engine holding together for a race is quite different than a street flat plane crank engine running 10,000 miles.
Having driven a flat plane crank Ferrari (308 GTB QV) for 15 years, I can say it's not all roses.
I wore earplugs whenever I drove the car.
The secondary vibrations were very fatiguing on extended canyon carving drives. When you combine that with working the gated shifter, heel and toeing, and staying safe by never crossing the yellow line, the vibration related fatigue superimposed on the other factors, me want to take a nap every time I drove the car risk we for two hours! And I was in my 30s then.
Long story short, just as is the case with some GT3 owner who sell because of noise, vibration, stiff ride and high highway revs, I think a fair number of Z06 owners will buy in then bail out.
There been many GT350 engine failures.
The Ferrari 360 had a cracked exhaust manifold problem which I believe has been solved.
Finally and importantly, the larger the engine displacement, of course the worse the vibration problem is with a flat plane crank design. The Z06 is a 5.5, the GT 350 was a 5.2, and the largest Ferrari V8 I believe was a 4.5.
A C8R engine holding together for a race is quite different than a street flat plane crank engine running 10,000 miles.
Having driven a flat plane crank Ferrari (308 GTB QV) for 15 years, I can say it's not all roses.
I wore earplugs whenever I drove the car.
The secondary vibrations were very fatiguing on extended canyon carving drives. When you combine that with working the gated shifter, heel and toeing, and staying safe by never crossing the yellow line, the vibration related fatigue superimposed on the other factors, me want to take a nap every time I drove the car risk we for two hours! And I was in my 30s then.
Long story short, just as is the case with some GT3 owner who sell because of noise, vibration, stiff ride and high highway revs, I think a fair number of Z06 owners will buy in then bail out.
Last edited by Tompoodie; Nov 2, 2021 at 06:23 PM.
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Originally Posted by Tompoodie
I am dubious that the Z06 flat plane crank engine is going to be durable because of the well-known vibration problem associated with this design.
There been many GT350 engine failures.
The Ferrari 360 had a cracked exhaust manifold problem which I believe has been solved.
Finally and importantly, the larger the engine displacement, of course the worse the vibration problem is with a flat plane crank design. The Z06 is a 5.5, the GT 350 was a 5.2, and the largest Ferrari V8 I believe was a 4.5.
A C8R engine holding together for a race is quite different than a street flat plane crank engine running 10,000 miles.
Having driven a flat plane crank Ferrari (308 GTB QV) for 15 years, I can say it's not all roses.
I wore earplugs whenever I drove the car.
The secondary vibrations were very fatiguing on extended canyon carving drives. When you combine that with working the gated shifter, heel and toeing, and staying safe by never crossing the yellow line, the vibration related fatigue superimposed on the other factors, me want to take a nap every time I drove the car risk we for two hours! And I was in my 30s then.
Long story short, just as is the case with some GT3 owner who sell because of noise, vibration, stiff ride and high highway revs, I think a fair number of Z06 owners will buy in then bail out.
There been many GT350 engine failures.
The Ferrari 360 had a cracked exhaust manifold problem which I believe has been solved.
Finally and importantly, the larger the engine displacement, of course the worse the vibration problem is with a flat plane crank design. The Z06 is a 5.5, the GT 350 was a 5.2, and the largest Ferrari V8 I believe was a 4.5.
A C8R engine holding together for a race is quite different than a street flat plane crank engine running 10,000 miles.
Having driven a flat plane crank Ferrari (308 GTB QV) for 15 years, I can say it's not all roses.
I wore earplugs whenever I drove the car.
The secondary vibrations were very fatiguing on extended canyon carving drives. When you combine that with working the gated shifter, heel and toeing, and staying safe by never crossing the yellow line, the vibration related fatigue superimposed on the other factors, me want to take a nap every time I drove the car risk we for two hours! And I was in my 30s then.
Long story short, just as is the case with some GT3 owner who sell because of noise, vibration, stiff ride and high highway revs, I think a fair number of Z06 owners will buy in then bail out.
Racer
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This Z06 is special, and I don't like Corvettes. Porsche shouldn't worry but anyone who thinks a fair number of Porsche owners won't be cross shopping this is nuts.
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this is a great article in laymans terms. The LT6 engineering is rock solid. If they can keep manufacturing tolerances tight, its going to be an engine for the ages:
https://www.motortrend.com/how-to/lt...6-details/amp/
https://www.motortrend.com/how-to/lt...6-details/amp/
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I think you lack the basics in understanding what makes a car go fast. No one on the planet is trying to buy a slower car. I'm really not sure what is not clear to you.
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I think you are attempting to create lines in demographics that really aren't there. There are only so many people on the planet that are looking at, say, $70k+ cars (I'm referring to base C8, I'm sure the Z06 will be well above). The higher up you go like that, the more homogenous the demographics become. Bottom line, speed is what we're all paying for and the C8 is offering a lot of that for the money. It will absolutely grab attention from the same buyer pool.
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Three Wheelin'
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Pricing just released and it’s much higher than alluded to by Corvette management months ago, and an approximately staggering > $40K more than a loaded C8 Z51 for a loaded Z07, which will be right at $160K-$170K depending on coupe versus convertible.
A lot of people will be dropping off of the lists at dealerships after this news.
My loaded ‘15 Z07 was $108K and I was sure that a loaded ‘23 Z07 would be around $130K. Not sure the car is going to be worth $165K given historical valuations of Vettes.
A lot of people will be dropping off of the lists at dealerships after this news.
My loaded ‘15 Z07 was $108K and I was sure that a loaded ‘23 Z07 would be around $130K. Not sure the car is going to be worth $165K given historical valuations of Vettes.
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Would like to get one but I can't justify a $140,000 for pretty much the exact same build of my 19 which was 95. Chevy really overpriced this car in my eyes. Yes I am sure everyone of them will sell for the first couple years. After that wait list has dried up though these will be sitting. The ZR1 and Zora will easily be over the 200k mark now. Don't think a Chevy should be encroaching 911 turbo prices for not even the top trim.
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My brother is trying to place an order for one.
Terry
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Would like to get one but I can't justify a $140,000 for pretty much the exact same build of my 19 which was 95. Chevy really overpriced this car in my eyes. Yes I am sure everyone of them will sell for the first couple years. After that wait list has dried up though these will be sitting. The ZR1 and Zora will easily be over the 200k mark now. Don't think a Chevy should be encroaching 911 turbo prices for not even the top trim.
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He is dealing with the same Chevy Dealership he had previously purchased multiple Corvettes from.
And the same salesman.
Terry
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Best of Luck