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Long Islander Apr 1, 2025 04:13 PM

Do you rotate your tires?
 
I have a 2024 Macan S with staggered wheels and tires. So, if I do rotate the tires, I can only rotate left to right. I was wondering if it's even worth rotating them. I believe the proper interval for rotation is every 6,500 miles. What does everyone else with staggerred wheels and tires do?

Carlo_Carrera Apr 1, 2025 06:44 PM

I rotate side to side about very 10k miles. It does help them last longer. Evens out the wear.

mark8 Apr 2, 2025 02:57 PM

I feel like if the wear from side to side is uneven this indicates an alignment issue, or that you are doing deliveries for UPS (all right turns). What's the thinking here about evening out the wear? I am certainly open to side to side rotation if there is a good reason. I'm just not sure that there is. I am noticing on my 2020 Turbo, since I drive mostly in "low" setting with the air suspension, my rear tires are wearing more on the inside of the tire than on the outside. I wonder if on my next pair of rear tires (which probably isn't that far off) I should have them align it while set in low mode?

Carlo_Carrera Apr 2, 2025 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by mark8 (Post 19976195)
I feel like if the wear from side to side is uneven this indicates an alignment issue, ...

This is incorrect thinking. The Macan is driven primarily by the right rear wheel. If the tires are not rotated side to side that tire will wear much faster than the left. The same goes with the front. One side always wears quicker.

Google it. Rotating tires side to side works. It isn't and alignment issue.

mark8 Apr 2, 2025 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by Carlo_Carrera (Post 19976223)
The Macan is driven primarily by the right rear wheel.

Can you explain this more? This doesn't make sense to me. I'm not saying you're wrong. I just don't understand it yet. That being said, I was intrigued by this so I want out and measured my tread it measures 1/32” less on my left rear tires vs the right. So I coming around on the uneven wear claim. I am not sure I understand how/why this happens though unless there are distinct route patterns that cause this.

Carlo_Carrera Apr 2, 2025 03:40 PM

The Macan uses an "open" differential. Only one rear wheel is driven under normal conditions. Maybe it is the left on a Macan, with most cars it is the right.

Google "open differential vs positive locking differential" https://www.google.com/search?client...UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

The results can explain it better than I can.

HelpMeHelpU Apr 2, 2025 04:03 PM

Every time I get my car back from the dry cleaners because heaven forbid it ever gets wet. :- )

CincyRovers Apr 2, 2025 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by Carlo_Carrera (Post 19976282)
The Macan uses an "open" differential. Only one rear wheel is driven under normal conditions. Maybe it is the left on a Macan, with most cars it is the right.

Google "open differential vs positive locking differential" https://www.google.com/search?client...UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

The results can explain it better than I can.

I have PTV+ on my '23 S and my tires have worn down evenly. Just hit 15k miles and having a set of Continental ExtremeContact DWS06+ installed tomorrow.

Carlo_Carrera Apr 2, 2025 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by CincyRovers (Post 19976533)
I have PTV+ on my '23 S and my tires have worn down evenly. Just hit 15k miles and having a set of Continental ExtremeContact DWS06+ installed tomorrow.

You went through a set of tires in 15k miles? Did you rotate them side to side at all?

utkinpol Apr 2, 2025 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by Carlo_Carrera (Post 19976282)
The Macan uses an "open" differential. Only one rear wheel is driven under normal conditions. Maybe it is the left on a Macan, with most cars it is the right.

Google "open differential vs positive locking differential" https://www.google.com/search?client...UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

The results can explain it better than I can.

it is absolutely not true. If only one side wheel would have torque on it - you car would spin out all the time. It is not how open diff works, on a straight line both wheels are used equally.
in a turn - not.

Carlo_Carrera Apr 2, 2025 07:32 PM

They do not. You are never driving in perfect straight line. When the wheels lose traction all the torque goes to the spinning wheel. That is why one rear tire will wear out faster than the other unless they are rotated side to side periodically.

Google it ---- open differential vs positive locking differential.

Carlo_Carrera Apr 2, 2025 07:37 PM

Open diff burnout vs limited slip burnout.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...1d0ad8ea59.jpg

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...87c0162a68.jpg

utkinpol Apr 2, 2025 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by Carlo_Carrera (Post 19976899)
They do not. You are never driving in perfect straight line. When the wheels lose traction all the torque goes to the spinning wheel. That is why one rear tire will wear out faster than the other unless they are rotated side to side periodically.

Google it ---- open differential vs positive locking differential.

no. and, sure.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...e9ac9c6478.png

Carlo_Carrera Apr 2, 2025 11:18 PM

And open differential will only apply equal power to both wheels if the car is driving in a perfectly straight line with perfect traction. In the real world that never happens. Any slight turn of the steering wheel, any tiny loss of traction to either side and the torque rushes to the wheel that is spinning faster and because of the way the open differentials are mechanically designed there is always a slight power biased toward one wheel or the other. Whichever way that bias is set that is the tire that will wear out quicker.

Look at the photos posted above. That is what happens in the real world.

CincyRovers Apr 3, 2025 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by Carlo_Carrera (Post 19976720)
You went through a set of tires in 15k miles? Did you rotate them side to side at all?

No, I didn't rotate them once. I do drive spiritedly and do a number of autocross events every year, which certainly didn't help, but I'm used to getting less than 20k miles out of a set of tires on one of my previous vehicles.


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