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Old Oct 8, 2024 | 03:40 PM
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Far as i'm aware, Macans were made for some time with PCCB options for GTS and Turbo models. I'm a big fan of carbon ceramics and find our SQ5 brakes to be its weakest link despite being most like a Macan in terms of agility. I'm hoping to find an upgrade form the '22 SQ5 to an earlier Macan Turbo seeing as the SQ5 punches a bit above the GTS' power-wise already but dont really know the front-engine side of the house these days in terms of which years/models/options to look for upon which to set up a properly sporty utility vehicle which can still handle mild off-road conditions and deep snow.
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Old Oct 8, 2024 | 03:56 PM
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The PCCBs were a rare option, as most people weren't willing to pay extra, and the price to replace the rotors is astronomical. The 2020MY was the last year you can get PCCBs. If I were you, I'd just get a new or CPO 95B.3 GTS with the PSCBs, which have comparable braking performance to the PCCBs, are a hell of a lot cheaper to replace and they leave behind zero brake dust. Also, the 2020-2021 GTS has the same tune as my 2023 S. It is a lot quicker than an SQ5. The 375 horsepower version of the 2.9 V6 has a sub four second 0-60 time, about a second quicker than an SQ5.
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Old Oct 8, 2024 | 04:28 PM
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The PCCBs were a rare option, as most people weren't willing to pay extra, and the price to replace the rotors is astronomical. The 2020MY was the last year you can get PCCBs. If I were you, I'd just get a new or CPO 95B.3 GTS with the PSCBs, which have comparable braking performance to the PCCBs, are a hell of a lot cheaper to replace and they leave behind zero brake dust. Also, the 2020-2021 GTS has the same tune as my 2023 S. It is a lot quicker than an SQ5. The 375 horsepower version of the 2.9 V6 has a sub four second 0-60 time, about a second quicker than an SQ5.
Thank you, appreciate the info. I'm a bit surprised about the brake comment in that i daily a TTRS which has some of the best conventional brakes out there and find it nowhere near even a much heavier R35 on NISMO CCMs and simply not in the same category of "stopping" (critically in being able to control chassis dynamics rapidly more than just coming to an emergency stop if a moose walks into the road) as the PCCB-clad 991 & 981 due to their engine placement using the rear brakes and sub-3k weight respectively. My experience with a friend's Urus indicates those carbon brakes to be a world of difference from the RSQ8 and even lighter SQ5 sets despite being on the large shared platform used by those two and AFAIK the Cayenne. I accidentally put that thing sideways in a tunneled off-ramp and managed to sort everything out without any damage due in large part to those monster stoppers (apparently putting those into their sportier drive mode turns off TC entirely).

Far as motors go - i'm fortunate to have access to a world-class facility which can get me all the power i ever want out of anything with 6 or more cylinders and for a family car they can easily do so without major mechanical changes. That sort of thing requires a solid base platform though (reason the various GTR engines are so renowned is their ability to withstand far more energy than they were sold to market producing), and i figure a 3.6L is probably the sensible way to go there due to the added displacement given that PDKs can apparently survive north of 1000lbft with nothing more than some external bracing (at least the Turbo 911 ones can). That leaves chassis (AFAIK common to all of them), brakes, and suspension to "get right" or "as right as possible" in such a purchase and the PCCBs being a rarity seems to make them the pviot-point (slapping carbons into a car not made for them is an experience not for the feint of heart - i've locked-up that GTR). That said, if the 2.9 motor (isn't that the audi one?) is a better option for that sort of thing, i'm all ears as to why that would be the better option.
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Old Oct 8, 2024 | 05:04 PM
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SQ5 = 349hp/369lb-ft
Macan S = 375hp/383lb-ft

The stock SQ5 is behind the Macan S power-wise. Are you comparing a modded SQ5?
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Old Oct 8, 2024 | 06:06 PM
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When I was ordering, sales guy told me I could get PCCB, but it might delay March 2021 delivery. And that the standard PSCB were very near as good with no dust.
Wish I had risked the delay, but I doubt it makes much difference on that heavy a car.
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Old Oct 8, 2024 | 10:28 PM
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PSCBs is all you will ever need on the street (including the ABahns) unless you track the car.
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