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Old 05-25-2024, 02:05 PM
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Default Paddle Shifters VS no Paddle Shifters

I depend upon my paddle shifters to tightly control my Macan.
The Macan EV has no paddle shifters. You have to ride the breaks, on a heavy car
with little to no brake feed back.
Is this a turn off for any one else ?
Old 05-25-2024, 05:32 PM
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You’re looking for transmission braking? The Macan EV has a single speed transmission which would rule that out I guess.
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Originally Posted by rdubu
You’re looking for transmission braking? The Macan EV has a single speed transmission which would rule that out I guess.
It would have regeneration to accomplish that task.
Old 05-26-2024, 09:25 AM
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I don't know how many regen settings the EV has, either I didn't read about it or don't care to remember. On many EV's the regen is strong enough in some settings to enable one pedal driving.
When I'm using the paddles to shift, I never drop to lower gears to increase braking, only to set up the next corner or maneuver. Brakes are relatively cheap.
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Porsche brakes aren't relatively cheap. I would rather have the option to select how much off-throttle regenerative braking to apply, rather than "Almost none," as Porsche currently dictates.

It would be goofy to use paddles for this, though... just bury the control in a menu somewhere. It's a set-and-forget kind of thing.
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Originally Posted by nevil
I don't know how many regen settings the EV has, either I didn't read about it or don't care to remember. On many EV's the regen is strong enough in some settings to enable one pedal driving.
When I'm using the paddles to shift, I never drop to lower gears to increase braking, only to set up the next corner or maneuver. Brakes are relatively cheap.
FYI
The new Macan EVs offer NO regenerative braking !
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Originally Posted by malibu515
FYI
The new Macan EVs offer NO regenerative braking !
Why do you suppose that is? This would be energy lost.
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Originally Posted by malibu515
FYI
The new Macan EVs offer NO regenerative braking !
Not according to this: https://newsroom.porsche.com/en_US/2...new_level.html
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Originally Posted by nevil
Not so !
I spoke with the Service Manager at my local Porsche Dealership. I have bought a 2020 992 C4S and now have on order a 2025 Porsche Macan GTS.
He assures me that there is NOT any significant Regenerative Breaking in the new Macan EV. Yes there is a tiny amount but nothing noticeable as in the
Tesla cars.
He also warns that since this heavy car will depend on continuous braking to control the ride, the brake pads, which are expensive, will have to be replaced
repeatedly.
Are prospective buyers really aware of this ?
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I would always want to rely on the brakes vs. engine to slow the vehicle down. One is a replaceable wear item and the other is not.

I try to avoid manually downshifting as much as I can, and let the brakes do what they were designed to do, instead of the engine and transmission.

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Your engine won't mind.
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Originally Posted by BMinSFL
I would always want to rely on the brakes vs. engine to slow the vehicle down. One is a replaceable wear item and the other is not.

I try to avoid manually downshifting as much as I can, and let the brakes do what they were designed to do, instead of the engine and transmission.
I asked about this , too ! The maintenance manager told me all Porsches are meant to be driven HARD. In fact it is better for resale value. The cars are built
so bullet proof, that there is no issue in using the paddles all the time. Check with your local Porsche mechanic to confirm.
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Originally Posted by malibu515
I asked about this , too ! The maintenance manager told me all Porsches are meant to be driven HARD. In fact it is better for resale value. The cars are built
so bullet proof, that there is no issue in using the paddles all the time. Check with your local Porsche mechanic to confirm.
The Macan "PDK" can pose issues if not kept up with a proper maintenance regimen, many recommend more maintenance than the service manual. It's a weak spot and far from bulletproof.

I would do anything I can to keep the transmission out of slowing down the car if the brakes are an easy alternative. It all generates heat and wear. The maintenance manager has an incentive to tell you to drive the crap out of it.

What objective measures are present and observable from driving hard with a direct correlation to increase resale value?
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Originally Posted by Larson E. Rapp
Your engine won't mind.
I'm more concerned about the transmission but higher RPM is equivalent to more heat which is not beneficial, especially for a function that can be handled by other means that are easily replaceable.
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Your transmission won't mind, either.


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