RH LED low beam failure- confusing symptoms.
Hi all, I've got a really confusing problem and I'm hoping someone can shed some light on this (no pun intended).
2019 Macan S, 60k miles.
A few weeks back my RH (passenger's side) low beam stopped working. DRLs and high beam work fine.
I decided to diagnose whether the problem was the headlight or the control modules.
Step one: Pulled both headlights out. Swapped the LED control modules from left headlight (known good) to right headlight (dead low beam). This is the square silver module attached to the bottom of the headlight.
Step two: Reinstall the headlights with the swapped modules and start the car. BOTH HEADLIGHTS WORK! Victory, or so I thought. I shut the car off after confirming full functionality of low beams, high beams, and DRLs. All is good.
Until I shut the car off. I started the car a few minutes later and the RH low beam was dead again. I swapped the control modules back to their original positions, and nothing changed. LH headlight is fine, RH headlight has no low beam. It doesn't make sense.
Fast forward a couple of weeks. I bought a slightly used headlight online. It actually looked brand new when it arrived.
I installed it, re-using the original modules (both LED control module and AFS control module). Started the car- RH low beam is still dead.
Just out of curiosity, I pulled the headlights again and swapped the LED control modules once again (the silver modules on the bottom of the lights). Re-installed the headlights, started the car. BOTH HEADLIGHTS WORK AGAIN! All functions are working as intended.
Until I shut the car off and restarted. RH low beam was dead again.
I'm stumped. It doesn't seem like a hardware issue. I know all of the LEDs are capable of illuminating.
Anybody have any idea what the problem could be, and how to fix it?
I have a dealer appt next week as a last resort. I'd prefer to fix this myself if I can figure out the root cause.
Thanks in advance for any help.
2019 Macan S, 60k miles.
A few weeks back my RH (passenger's side) low beam stopped working. DRLs and high beam work fine.
I decided to diagnose whether the problem was the headlight or the control modules.
Step one: Pulled both headlights out. Swapped the LED control modules from left headlight (known good) to right headlight (dead low beam). This is the square silver module attached to the bottom of the headlight.
Step two: Reinstall the headlights with the swapped modules and start the car. BOTH HEADLIGHTS WORK! Victory, or so I thought. I shut the car off after confirming full functionality of low beams, high beams, and DRLs. All is good.
Until I shut the car off. I started the car a few minutes later and the RH low beam was dead again. I swapped the control modules back to their original positions, and nothing changed. LH headlight is fine, RH headlight has no low beam. It doesn't make sense.
Fast forward a couple of weeks. I bought a slightly used headlight online. It actually looked brand new when it arrived.
I installed it, re-using the original modules (both LED control module and AFS control module). Started the car- RH low beam is still dead.
Just out of curiosity, I pulled the headlights again and swapped the LED control modules once again (the silver modules on the bottom of the lights). Re-installed the headlights, started the car. BOTH HEADLIGHTS WORK AGAIN! All functions are working as intended.
Until I shut the car off and restarted. RH low beam was dead again.
I'm stumped. It doesn't seem like a hardware issue. I know all of the LEDs are capable of illuminating.
Anybody have any idea what the problem could be, and how to fix it?
I have a dealer appt next week as a last resort. I'd prefer to fix this myself if I can figure out the root cause.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Hi all, I've got a really confusing problem and I'm hoping someone can shed some light on this (no pun intended).
2019 Macan S, 60k miles.
A few weeks back my RH (passenger's side) low beam stopped working. DRLs and high beam work fine.
I decided to diagnose whether the problem was the headlight or the control modules.
Step one: Pulled both headlights out. Swapped the LED control modules from left headlight (known good) to right headlight (dead low beam). This is the square silver module attached to the bottom of the headlight.
Step two: Reinstall the headlights with the swapped modules and start the car. BOTH HEADLIGHTS WORK! Victory, or so I thought. I shut the car off after confirming full functionality of low beams, high beams, and DRLs. All is good.
Until I shut the car off. I started the car a few minutes later and the RH low beam was dead again. I swapped the control modules back to their original positions, and nothing changed. LH headlight is fine, RH headlight has no low beam. It doesn't make sense.
Fast forward a couple of weeks. I bought a slightly used headlight online. It actually looked brand new when it arrived.
I installed it, re-using the original modules (both LED control module and AFS control module). Started the car- RH low beam is still dead.
Just out of curiosity, I pulled the headlights again and swapped the LED control modules once again (the silver modules on the bottom of the lights). Re-installed the headlights, started the car. BOTH HEADLIGHTS WORK AGAIN! All functions are working as intended.
Until I shut the car off and restarted. RH low beam was dead again.
I'm stumped. It doesn't seem like a hardware issue. I know all of the LEDs are capable of illuminating.
Anybody have any idea what the problem could be, and how to fix it?
I have a dealer appt next week as a last resort. I'd prefer to fix this myself if I can figure out the root cause.
Thanks in advance for any help.
2019 Macan S, 60k miles.
A few weeks back my RH (passenger's side) low beam stopped working. DRLs and high beam work fine.
I decided to diagnose whether the problem was the headlight or the control modules.
Step one: Pulled both headlights out. Swapped the LED control modules from left headlight (known good) to right headlight (dead low beam). This is the square silver module attached to the bottom of the headlight.
Step two: Reinstall the headlights with the swapped modules and start the car. BOTH HEADLIGHTS WORK! Victory, or so I thought. I shut the car off after confirming full functionality of low beams, high beams, and DRLs. All is good.
Until I shut the car off. I started the car a few minutes later and the RH low beam was dead again. I swapped the control modules back to their original positions, and nothing changed. LH headlight is fine, RH headlight has no low beam. It doesn't make sense.
Fast forward a couple of weeks. I bought a slightly used headlight online. It actually looked brand new when it arrived.
I installed it, re-using the original modules (both LED control module and AFS control module). Started the car- RH low beam is still dead.
Just out of curiosity, I pulled the headlights again and swapped the LED control modules once again (the silver modules on the bottom of the lights). Re-installed the headlights, started the car. BOTH HEADLIGHTS WORK AGAIN! All functions are working as intended.
Until I shut the car off and restarted. RH low beam was dead again.
I'm stumped. It doesn't seem like a hardware issue. I know all of the LEDs are capable of illuminating.
Anybody have any idea what the problem could be, and how to fix it?
I have a dealer appt next week as a last resort. I'd prefer to fix this myself if I can figure out the root cause.
Thanks in advance for any help.
With the sophisticated electronics systems in these cars requiring replacment parts to be "coded" to the car, perhaps this is the reason the hardware swap did not work (just guessing). Perhaps there is a fault further back in the car's control systems. Probably not a trouble shooting job for shade tree mechanics that don't have Porsche system scanners.
Unfortunately it's out of warranty. About the most I can do at this point is measure voltages at the headlight harness and compare L to R.
Failing passenger's side (RH) low beam seems to be a known failure.
Failing passenger's side (RH) low beam seems to be a known failure.
Just happened to my wife's car with 25k miles. I swapped the modules and light sporadically comes in when car isn't running. But off for the most part. I'm debating if I should order a used headlight but saw that didn't solve anyone's problems. Appreciate the input
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I ended up going through the below triage process and it finally fixed my issue. Also posted here with some images: https://www.macanforum.com/threads/2...t#post-2809855
Triage 1:
Reset error code with PIWIS. Warning error came back up as before.
Triage 2:
Swapped all (3x) electronic control modules from left->right and right-> left. Warning error remained with the front right light. Swapped all control boxes back.
Triage 3:
Checked all connectors, including back of headlight and bumper (under wheel fender liner at lower area). Removed connectors, blew out with air gun, checked for debris, reattached and confirmed ‘click’. Warning error remained the same.
Triage 4:
Purchased new headlight from service center. OEM 95B 941 040 L. Swapped over 3 electronic control modules (2 outside, and 1 inside light) and fan (twist-lock, not obvious how to remove initially). Warning error went away… success!
Ultimately the error followed the LED light itself and not any of the control modules. This appears to be a fully sealed light, so I’m not sure if it’s possible to repair. The part is crazy expensive ($3.2k ea). If anyone knows how to repair the light I’d like to do that for resale. Or… if anyone wants to buy the broken light (sans control modules and fan) I’d sell it for cheap.
Also, FWIW @dino buric I ended up replacing the other light too, since the new one was noticeably clearer than the 8-yr old one on the other side. So that means I have a fully functional (no error) used light from my 2017 Macan GTS (LED headlight). It’s the driver side if that’s helpful to you, I’d sell it for cheap.
Triage 1:
Reset error code with PIWIS. Warning error came back up as before.
Triage 2:
Swapped all (3x) electronic control modules from left->right and right-> left. Warning error remained with the front right light. Swapped all control boxes back.
Triage 3:
Checked all connectors, including back of headlight and bumper (under wheel fender liner at lower area). Removed connectors, blew out with air gun, checked for debris, reattached and confirmed ‘click’. Warning error remained the same.
Triage 4:
Purchased new headlight from service center. OEM 95B 941 040 L. Swapped over 3 electronic control modules (2 outside, and 1 inside light) and fan (twist-lock, not obvious how to remove initially). Warning error went away… success!
Ultimately the error followed the LED light itself and not any of the control modules. This appears to be a fully sealed light, so I’m not sure if it’s possible to repair. The part is crazy expensive ($3.2k ea). If anyone knows how to repair the light I’d like to do that for resale. Or… if anyone wants to buy the broken light (sans control modules and fan) I’d sell it for cheap.
Also, FWIW @dino buric I ended up replacing the other light too, since the new one was noticeably clearer than the 8-yr old one on the other side. So that means I have a fully functional (no error) used light from my 2017 Macan GTS (LED headlight). It’s the driver side if that’s helpful to you, I’d sell it for cheap.
Last edited by O8X6al; Dec 20, 2024 at 04:24 PM.
You have to purchase the "consumables" warranty. They are not covered under CPO or extended defects warranty. Consumables warranty also covers PSCB brakes, pads (and some other minor items like wiper blades). Well worth it for the headlight and PSCB coverage as these two items alone can be many thousands of dollars.
Lots of conflicting info about CPO coverage of the headlights on these forums. Some have had them covered, some insist they are not. Check with dealerships; if one ways no, move on to the next. Good luck!




